Dev Update #4 - MPQ Unity Staggered Launch

bluewolf

It seems that wave node points are not applied to scores in pve right now which is why you can’t finish WtS in Unity. The points just stay on the node.

Also happens in DDQ but you don’t need the node points to clear progression.

We have two wave-filled pves coming up after the boss so I hope that they can fix this in the next couple days.

Borstock

@LavaManLee said:
This is a classic example of "if it ain't broke, don't fix it". There was zero need for a new Unity Server. They chose to spend money on it and we are all going to pay the price.

You wouldn't be making that argument if they released it without bugs. Them releasing it too early (by our standards) doesn't retroactively negate the need for a new engine.

Bzhai

@BriMan2222 said:

@ThisisClemFandango said:
Does anyone remember marvel heroes? It was on pc for ages and then it started to lose money, so then they ported it to consoles to bring in more revenue then it crashed and burned and they shut the game down?

Just a random thought for the day

Yes. I also remember when Marvel Avengers Alliance on FB was going to revamp everything because Flash was being abandoned by FB. We were all assured that everything would be fine, the game was still thriving, and they had just updated their official forum website with a new look and they wouldn't have done that just to close down shop. The announcement that the game was going to close down permanently was announced just a few weeks later....

Hopefully this is just pointless rambling and reminiscing and not relevant to MPQ at all...

They really fudged it up when they poured all their resources into Avengers Alliance 2. I think that got repurposed into Marvel Strike Force coz it looks similar.

I remember how gutted I felt when the game's end was announced. I was just getting good at pvp, as in I had the cheesiest team on defense. The last character released was Adam Warlock and they just gave all the currency for free so we could play till our hearts' content until the final moments.

LavaManLee

@Borstock said:

@LavaManLee said:
This is a classic example of "if it ain't broke, don't fix it". There was zero need for a new Unity Server. They chose to spend money on it and we are all going to pay the price.

You wouldn't be making that argument if they released it without bugs. Them releasing it too early (by our standards) doesn't retroactively negate the need for a new engine.

But it wasn't released without bugs. So that argument is moot.

And, yes, I still would make that argument. They kept saying they couldn't do things with the old engine, but they constantly could and they showed it. Ascension. Monetized Cover Swaps. Qandry. Taking away Qandry. New boss events.

Now, was it a pain for the devs to have the old engine? Probably. Did it make the game impossible to play? Definitely not.

There was no game play need to spend the amount of time and, apparently, money on it to come up with something with so many bugs and that only takes gameplay backwards, from what we are hearing.

ThisisClemFandango

@Bzhai said:

@BriMan2222 said:

@ThisisClemFandango said:
Does anyone remember marvel heroes? It was on pc for ages and then it started to lose money, so then they ported it to consoles to bring in more revenue then it crashed and burned and they shut the game down?

Just a random thought for the day

Yes. I also remember when Marvel Avengers Alliance on FB was going to revamp everything because Flash was being abandoned by FB. We were all assured that everything would be fine, the game was still thriving, and they had just updated their official forum website with a new look and they wouldn't have done that just to close down shop. The announcement that the game was going to close down permanently was announced just a few weeks later....

Hopefully this is just pointless rambling and reminiscing and not relevant to MPQ at all...

They really fudged it up when they poured all their resources into Avengers Alliance 2. I think that got repurposed into Marvel Strike Force coz it looks similar.

I remember how gutted I felt when the game's end was announced. I was just getting good at pvp, as in I had the cheesiest team on defense. The last character released was Adam Warlock and they just gave all the currency for free so we could play till our hearts' content until the final moments.

X force deadpool and x force psylocke and the agent with hand of apocalypse to punish boon buster, I used to cackle doing pvp, more enjoyable than pvp on mpq for sure.

BriMan2222

@ThisisClemFandango said:

@Bzhai said:

@BriMan2222 said:

@ThisisClemFandango said:
Does anyone remember marvel heroes? It was on pc for ages and then it started to lose money, so then they ported it to consoles to bring in more revenue then it crashed and burned and they shut the game down?

Just a random thought for the day

Yes. I also remember when Marvel Avengers Alliance on FB was going to revamp everything because Flash was being abandoned by FB. We were all assured that everything would be fine, the game was still thriving, and they had just updated their official forum website with a new look and they wouldn't have done that just to close down shop. The announcement that the game was going to close down permanently was announced just a few weeks later....

Hopefully this is just pointless rambling and reminiscing and not relevant to MPQ at all...

They really fudged it up when they poured all their resources into Avengers Alliance 2. I think that got repurposed into Marvel Strike Force coz it looks similar.

I remember how gutted I felt when the game's end was announced. I was just getting good at pvp, as in I had the cheesiest team on defense. The last character released was Adam Warlock and they just gave all the currency for free so we could play till our hearts' content until the final moments.

X force deadpool and x force psylocke and the agent with hand of apocalypse to punish boon buster, I used to cackle doing pvp, more enjoyable than pvp on mpq for sure.

White suit Iron Fist was amazing before they nerfed him. A full team heal that also made your entire team immune to debuffs. Most of the time I didn't even need the heal, I would just immediately fire it off to get the debuff immunity.

stef_focus

@Necraist said:
In steam the mission "down 21 enemies with Captain MArvel (Ms. Marvel) on your team" does not work

I finished the black matches one, and didn't get the Season Pass rewards, so it looks like It doesn't matter if it works or not...

Seph1roth5

@argle_bargle said:

@argle_bargle said:
One gameplay change I noticed is that in a wave node, new enemies don't arrive until after the board settles. If I'm using Juggs/BraveSam and I do a Juggs match, the match downs the first enemy, then Collateral hits to remove the next two... then the next enemies arrive. Previously, the match would down the first target, who would be replaced, then Collateral would down all three targets.

Similarly, Hawkeye's Speed Shot is wasted if it downs the first three enemies. The new ones don't fill in until after all the CDs expire.

I thought that's how it always worked. I remember downing an enemy, waiting for cascades and aoe and everything to finish resolving, and THEN the next guy would show up after it all finished.

argle_bargle

@Seph1roth5 said:

@argle_bargle said:
Similarly, Hawkeye's Speed Shot is wasted if it downs the first three enemies. The new ones don't fill in until after all the CDs expire.

I thought that's how it always worked. I remember downing an enemy, waiting for cascades and aoe and everything to finish resolving, and THEN the next guy would show up after it all finished.

Only for the end of a wave. Otherwise, he next enemy in the same wave would appear, then the CDs would continue.

Alfje17

@argle_bargle said:

@argle_bargle said:
One gameplay change I noticed is that in a wave node, new enemies don't arrive until after the board settles. If I'm using Juggs/BraveSam and I do a Juggs match, the match downs the first enemy, then Collateral hits to remove the next two... then the next enemies arrive. Previously, the match would down the first target, who would be replaced, then Collateral would down all three targets.

Similarly, Hawkeye's Speed Shot is wasted if it downs the first three enemies. The new ones don't fill in until after all the CDs expire.

I thought that's how it always worked. I remember downing an enemy, waiting for cascades and aoe and everything to finish resolving, and THEN the next guy would show up after it all finished.

Cascades, extra damage. etc... did apply to the next wave, it often made tracking DDQ waves more difficult as you could wipe 2 waves with just one match/attack.

Found a few more issues: points don't seem to be awarded for Welcome to SHIELD missions now, so I have a Completed event but only 1600 of the 1750 points.
And my Season Pass has just been reset to day 1

BriMan2222

@Alfje17 said:

@argle_bargle said:

@argle_bargle said:
One gameplay change I noticed is that in a wave node, new enemies don't arrive until after the board settles. If I'm using Juggs/BraveSam and I do a Juggs match, the match downs the first enemy, then Collateral hits to remove the next two... then the next enemies arrive. Previously, the match would down the first target, who would be replaced, then Collateral would down all three targets.

Similarly, Hawkeye's Speed Shot is wasted if it downs the first three enemies. The new ones don't fill in until after all the CDs expire.

I thought that's how it always worked. I remember downing an enemy, waiting for cascades and aoe and everything to finish resolving, and THEN the next guy would show up after it all finished.

Cascades, extra damage. etc... did apply to the next wave, it often made tracking DDQ waves more difficult as you could wipe 2 waves with just one match/attack.

Found a few more issues: points don't seem to be awarded for Welcome to SHIELD missions now, so I have a Completed event but only 1600 of the 1750 points.
And my Season Pass has just been reset to day 1

That's never how it's worked for me playing on android. If the enemies were all part of the same wave, the new enemies would come in and be hit by cascades, but if the wave ended the cascades would resolve and the new enemies would come in at full health. Also, any countdowns that do damage, like 2 star hawkeye or coulson, would resolve and do nothing and the new wave would come in at full health.

entrailbucket

@BriMan2222 said:

@Alfje17 said:

@argle_bargle said:

@argle_bargle said:
One gameplay change I noticed is that in a wave node, new enemies don't arrive until after the board settles. If I'm using Juggs/BraveSam and I do a Juggs match, the match downs the first enemy, then Collateral hits to remove the next two... then the next enemies arrive. Previously, the match would down the first target, who would be replaced, then Collateral would down all three targets.

Similarly, Hawkeye's Speed Shot is wasted if it downs the first three enemies. The new ones don't fill in until after all the CDs expire.

I thought that's how it always worked. I remember downing an enemy, waiting for cascades and aoe and everything to finish resolving, and THEN the next guy would show up after it all finished.

Cascades, extra damage. etc... did apply to the next wave, it often made tracking DDQ waves more difficult as you could wipe 2 waves with just one match/attack.

Found a few more issues: points don't seem to be awarded for Welcome to SHIELD missions now, so I have a Completed event but only 1600 of the 1750 points.
And my Season Pass has just been reset to day 1

That's never how it's worked for me playing on android. If the enemies were all part of the same wave, the new enemies would come in and be hit by cascades, but if the wave ended the cascades would resolve and the new enemies would come in at full health. Also, any countdowns that do damage, like 2 star hawkeye or coulson, would resolve and do nothing and the new wave would come in at full health.

Same. It's always been super frustrating! Everything resolves, then the next enemies show up at full health.

I wonder if that's why certain players were always slightly faster in PvE (way back in the mists of time before turn0 stuff).

JoeHandle

Here's another fun weirdness involving thigs being spammed ... I just launched game. Get a popup saying I lost 390pts in current PvP. Since I had less than 800, that seemed unusually high, but i clicked past. THen got a second popup re: current PvP, saying I had gained 81pts on defense. OK ... then noticed ... all the records are the same ...

Then another one ...

... and another ...

... and another ...

This could go on for awhile....

EDIT ... there were 5 more after that ... 10 total regarding one event.

fnedude

Alfje17
And my Season Pass has just been reset to day 1

On my Steam, it is the box that was reset tot he top, but all of the items had a "checkmark" in them. Scrolled down, and I'm still working on earning my #74+ like yesterday.

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Comment #1 on The Build. Used 3Deadpool and 4America (seperately) to earn "pride token", didn't get a reward. I know normally that usually "resets" around 130pm EST, but it's almost 6pm EST and still didn't register.

Comment #2. Using 5JuggerDuck in PVE, it's showing 4InvisibleWoman icons for his matches.

bluewolf

@JoeHandle

Just wait’ll you shield. It’s lots of fun.

Necraist

@bluewolf said:

@Necraist said:
In steam the mission "down 21 enemies with Captain MArvel (Ms. Marvel) on your team" does not work

I've been on Unity a few days and I can't do this quest, nor any of the Stun enemy quests recently.

I suspect there's some error with quests involving certain changes in enemy status.

But it doesn't give me the match 20 black reward either, even though it counted as if it did.

bluewolf

@Necraist said:

@bluewolf said:

@Necraist said:
In steam the mission "down 21 enemies with Captain MArvel (Ms. Marvel) on your team" does not work

I've been on Unity a few days and I can't do this quest, nor any of the Stun enemy quests recently.

I suspect there's some error with quests involving certain changes in enemy status.

But it doesn't give me the match 20 black reward either, even though it counted as if it did.

Yeah, it sucks. You claim the quest and then you can’t claim the rewards. Supposedly I guess you’ll get them later? I don’t know. I’ve had days of them go poof so I don’t bother with some.

sambrookjm

@Necraist said:

@bluewolf said:

@Necraist said:
In steam the mission "down 21 enemies with Captain MArvel (Ms. Marvel) on your team" does not work

I've been on Unity a few days and I can't do this quest, nor any of the Stun enemy quests recently.

I suspect there's some error with quests involving certain changes in enemy status.

But it doesn't give me the match 20 black reward either, even though it counted as if it did.

I think the Match 20 reward was auto-collected? I ended up with more tokens from the Deadpool Daily than usual when I got the 20 black matches, so I think you no longer have to click through to receive them.

In other news, Scarlet Witch can now Shapeshift...

Borstock

@LavaManLee said:

@Borstock said:

@LavaManLee said:
This is a classic example of "if it ain't broke, don't fix it". There was zero need for a new Unity Server. They chose to spend money on it and we are all going to pay the price.

You wouldn't be making that argument if they released it without bugs. Them releasing it too early (by our standards) doesn't retroactively negate the need for a new engine.

But it wasn't released without bugs. So that argument is moot.

And, yes, I still would make that argument. They kept saying they couldn't do things with the old engine, but they constantly could and they showed it. Ascension. Monetized Cover Swaps. Qandry. Taking away Qandry. New boss events.

Now, was it a pain for the devs to have the old engine? Probably. Did it make the game impossible to play? Definitely not.

There was no game play need to spend the amount of time and, apparently, money on it to come up with something with so many bugs and that only takes gameplay backwards, from what we are hearing.

You're making so many assumptions here, I wouldn't even know where to begin. You have absolutely no idea where they want to take this game in the future and what it entails behind the scenes. None.

They rushed the release. That's all. That's the only problem here. Don't make up new ones.

sambrookjm

And so can the Kishu...