Ascended Winners and Losers

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  • WhiteBomber
    WhiteBomber Posts: 749 Critical Contributor

    I wasn't going to type and share this one, but I had to type it out just to compare the numbers and figure things out, so here ya go. The bottom copy of info is the 5star numbers, if there is no copy, there is no change:

    Betsy B 4-5

    Level 370 - 457
    Health: 28,659 - 76,672

    Red:

    • 4AP: Match = +1AP and 120% per mut or exc
    • 4AP: Match = +1AP and 80% per mut or exc
    • Passive: Every 3AP in strongest increase her match by 130% (max 780) and ability by 75% (max 450)
    • Passive: Every 3AP in strongest increase her match by 80% (max 480) and ability by 25% (max 150)

    Yella:

    • 5AP: 3 turn CD deals damage total protect tiles per hit
    • Passive: Create 1009 protect up to number of muts
    • Passive: Create 2254 protect up to number of muts

    Pink:

    • 8AP: Improve protects by 635 for each Excali then damage team for total protect strength
    • 8AP: Improve protects by 1128 for each Excali then damage team for total protect strength
    • Passive: Protects +100% while in front

    There are a couple teams where she makes an amazing support (and the protects come from elsewhere), that I could see leaving her at 4 since her ability increase drops by 300% (why??) causing her Pink so suffer greatly. See: Magik4, MultiMan, Nico, Spidermay etc.

    However (Bucket)! Most of the time you want her to tank to get the protect increase, plus the health and match damage increase so worth the ascension, I just don't know about chasing her over others (if you have top tiers to ascend still).

    I still very much like this character, wish they didn't nerf her percentages so much, but still coo.

  • abeckstrom
    abeckstrom Posts: 5 Just Dropped In

    Is there a consolidated document that summarizes this thread? Ascension winners and losers?

  • entrailbucket
    entrailbucket Posts: 6,999 Chairperson of the Boards

    @abeckstrom said:
    Is there a consolidated document that summarizes this thread? Ascension winners and losers?

    There is not. Someone could probably make one though! (Not me!)

  • Pantera236
    Pantera236 Posts: 603 Critical Contributor

    Not it!

  • LavaManLee
    LavaManLee Posts: 1,704 Chairperson of the Boards

    I'll get back to everyone in six months when my Sidewinder is 550 (just ascended him and he is at 475 now). Figure even with a possible nerf, I'll go for it. Having a Sidewinder at extra health would be great, IMHO.

  • entrailbucket
    entrailbucket Posts: 6,999 Chairperson of the Boards

    I remember someone posting that 2* Ghost Rider was awful...I just got her to 5* today and she doesn't look bad at all. These are boosted numbers -- she's base level 450 boosted to 570.




  • WhiteBomber
    WhiteBomber Posts: 749 Critical Contributor

    107k health on a god boosted 5star doesn't look bad to you at all? We have wildly differing opinions I suppose.

    To clarify though, assuming you're talking about the comments from page 39; the discussion was regarding her yellow being so unlikely to trigger, it should be a bug, and that she has what looks to be the lowest health of anyone in the game (or close to it).

    I know you like trying to turn the tables on things that are statistically not good, but I don't remember anyone calling her "awful". In the current game, I personally would call her pretty bad though.

  • entrailbucket
    entrailbucket Posts: 6,999 Chairperson of the Boards

    @WhiteBomber said:
    107k health on a god boosted 5star doesn't look bad to you at all? We have wildly differing opinions I suppose.

    To clarify though, assuming you're talking about the comments from page 39; the discussion was regarding her yellow being so unlikely to trigger, it should be a bug, and that she has what looks to be the lowest health of anyone in the game (or close to it).

    I know you like trying to turn the tables on things that are statistically not good, but I don't remember anyone calling her "awful". In the current game, I personally would call her pretty bad though.

    Uh, well I didn't remember who said it or what exactly they said. I suppose I could've looked it up.

    Her damage numbers aren't bad at all. Her health is low because of the yellow passive, which heals her back to full if she gets low on health. At 672 the threshold will probably be pretty high.

  • mdreyer93
    mdreyer93 Posts: 149 Tile Toppler

    @entrailbucket said:
    I remember someone posting that 2* Ghost Rider was awful...I just got her to 5* today and she doesn't look bad at all. These are boosted numbers -- she's base level 450 boosted to 570.

    Wow, just noticed the threshold on her yellow is 6.66% of her max health... coincidence, I think not.

  • mdreyer93
    mdreyer93 Posts: 149 Tile Toppler

    If there's a way to search this thread, I haven't found it. What are the thoughts on ascended Rhino? 200% boosted match damage in his strong colors seems very useful.

  • WhiteBomber
    WhiteBomber Posts: 749 Critical Contributor

    @mdreyer93 said:
    If there's a way to search this thread, I haven't found it. What are the thoughts on ascended Rhino? 200% boosted match damage in his strong colors seems very useful.

    I think that one was posted, but just search here, it's better:
    In game, search full and private Alliances "Variants" (there's only 1). The first commander has basically every character at 5star or 550. Buckets also has most ascended.

  • LavaManLee
    LavaManLee Posts: 1,704 Chairperson of the Boards
    edited 19 April 2025, 15:13

    As I was reading the description, I thought exactly what you typed at the bottom. Looks like she would be INSANE with 4AscJuggs and Sam. As you mentioned, with supports, 6 Purple AP is easy to get. Crazy good.

  • entrailbucket
    entrailbucket Posts: 6,999 Chairperson of the Boards

    @LavaManLee said:
    As I was reading the description, I thought exactly what you typed at the bottom. Looks like she would be INSANE with 4AscJuggs and Sam. As you mentioned, with supports, 6 Purple AP is easy to get. Crazy good.

    The unboosted number at lvl490 is 11,400, which is still pretty strong, especially considering that she's doubling up your strikes on those hits.

    There's also this (unboosted):

    which is going to make her very hard to kill in that team.

  • LavaManLee
    LavaManLee Posts: 1,704 Chairperson of the Boards

    Thanks for sharing. I hadn't really had a "favorite" three since Namor. Looks like I have a new one.

  • entrailbucket
    entrailbucket Posts: 6,999 Chairperson of the Boards

    https://streamable.com/sk7kv4

    I'm missing a whole bunch of levels here, but I think it's pretty good anyway. Probably not fast enough for PvE, and probably too random. Still very, very strong.

  • MCPenance
    MCPenance Posts: 24 Just Dropped In

    Does anyone have the numbers on Annihilus once ascended?

    He's such an cool character with a unique-enough kit but hits like wet toilet paper.

  • entrailbucket
    entrailbucket Posts: 6,999 Chairperson of the Boards

    @MCPenance said:
    Does anyone have the numbers on Annihilus once ascended?

    He's such an cool character with a unique-enough kit but hits like wet toilet paper.

    Mine is lvl471, unboosted currently. I honestly haven't messed around with him at all.




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