Getting bored

Bustapup

@Borstock said:
Oh, you're bored. Don't worry, you can play right now against this JuggSam team. Don't want to? You'd rather fight someone else? That's okay. There's a skip button! Skip! Now, you can fight a JuggSam team! Or a JuggSam team. Or a JuggSam team. Or a JuggSam team. Or a JuggSam team. Or a JuggSam team. Or a JuggSam team. Or a JuggSam team. Or a JuggSam team.

And before you know it you have 6 ISO left

DAZ0273

@Borstock said:
Oh, you're bored. Don't worry, you can play right now against this JuggSam team. Don't want to? You'd rather fight someone else? That's okay. There's a skip button! Skip! Now, you can fight a JuggSam team! Or a JuggSam team. Or a JuggSam team. Or a JuggSam team. Or a JuggSam team. Or a JuggSam team. Or a JuggSam team. Or a JuggSam team. Or a JuggSam team.

Oh c'mon there are plenty of SamJugg teams too! Some people are soooo negative!

WhiteBomber

Eeeeeey! Congratulations @BriMan2222 and @Godzillafan67 on making the list!

WhiteBomber

@Bustapup I know it's less fun have to pick counter characters when all you want to do is play the ones you like, but that's kinda a key strategy of winning PVP (in any game). If you only want to play the ones you like, PVE is the way to go. I got a look at your roster though, and you should be absolutely gutting ANY MThorlaris team that looks your way...

PLEASE NOTE: I am not saying you are wrong about the balance (we all know this game is NOT), but there are multiple options to pursue for stopping all current meta teams (I made a whole thread about it, you should swing buy and help us find more).

WhiteBomber

@Bustapup , as a sign of good faith, I found you in Sim and hit you with a different team. Now you hit me, and I will keep throwing different teams at you, problem solved!

Zarqa

@Bustapup said:

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@Borstock said:
Oh, you're bored. Don't worry, you can play right now against this JuggSam team. Don't want to? You'd rather fight someone else? That's okay. There's a skip button! Skip! Now, you can fight a JuggSam team! Or a JuggSam team. Or a JuggSam team. Or a JuggSam team. Or a JuggSam team. Or a JuggSam team. Or a JuggSam team. Or a JuggSam team. Or a JuggSam team.

And before you know it you have 6 ISO left

[Off topic response] Remember, you can restart your game and then skips become free again.[/Off topic response]

WhiteBomber

@Bustapup I just hit you again, this time with Moonstone4, Magik3, Purpleman4. When you fight back, does it show that team or the last team I used in Sim, regardless of who it was?

entrailbucket

@WhiteBomber said:
@Bustapup I just hit you again, this time with Moonstone4, Magik3, Purpleman4. When you fight back, does it show that team or the last team I used in Sim, regardless of who it was?

If it's a retaliation, it'll show him the team you beat him with.

Otherwise, the standard cupcake rules will apply.

Bustapup

Finally I can use Magik again......

sigh

DAZ0273

Use Chasm for first turn stun (if you have him)? He really slows down these Polaris teams by depriving them of turn 0 special tiles and gives you a chance to hammer Polaris. Magik also ignores protect tiles with her red I think? Polaris more than any other character really needs nerfing but until then best you can do is stun and deprive.

entrailbucket

@Bustapup said:

Finally I can use Magik again......

sigh

You just don't understand!!! It's fun for that other player to use that team!!!!1!!111 Why do you want to take their fun away????

Plus, obviously Magik is intended to be useless!! She's not a META (check on her character card! It says right there -- "do not use ever")

Anyway all characters aren't balanced and can never be completely balanced and have never been balanced and so complaining about this is basically a war crime.

Borstock

I mean, to be fair, the example given isn't a great one because the user's team has no real tools to fight that AI team. It's not unreasonable for a game to ask the player to at least think about the opponent.

I obviously agree with the main objection that the AI shouldn't be able to passively decimate you on its first turn beause of supports. It's not fun. It's not cute. I would rather they just deduct three health packs at the beginning of each day than watch my team get demolished before I can do anything.

entrailbucket

@Borstock said:
I mean, to be fair, the example given isn't a great one because the user's team has no real tools to fight that AI team. It's not unreasonable for a game to ask the player to at least think about the opponent.

I obviously agree with the main objection that the AI shouldn't be able to passively decimate you on its first turn beause of supports. It's not fun. It's not cute. I would rather they just deduct three health packs at the beginning of each day than watch my team get demolished before I can do anything.

Eh, I can't tell what level his Magik is but she's at least boosted this week. Mephisto looks to be bigger than both the other guy's characters. And it's not like the guys he's chosen are Black Bolt and Hawkeye or something.

Anyway, turn it around -- does anybody need tools to fight against Magik/Mephisto this week? Why do some teams get to require special tools but others don't?

Grantosium

Don't blow this comment out of proportion but in this example Red Guardian is the essential and has an activated power that ignores protect tiles. The fact that this makes no difference to the viability of a BRB team and that use of BRB doesn't feel at all punished in this event hints that every pick 2 event is basically the same regardless of who is essential and who is boosted.

Bustapup

@DAZ0273 said:
Use Chasm for first turn stun (if you have him)? He really slows down these Polaris teams by depriving them of turn 0 special tiles and gives you a chance to hammer Polaris. Magik also ignores protect tiles with her red I think? Polaris more than any other character really needs nerfing but until then best you can do is stun and deprive.

I have chasm, I actually have teams I can use to easily beat this team in just bored of constantly being forced to revert back to the same old teams again and again and again because there's a meta that has a stranglehold on every single event regardless of boosted characters.

Bustapup

@Borstock said:
I mean, to be fair, the example given isn't a great one because the user's team has no real tools to fight that AI team. It's not unreasonable for a game to ask the player to at least think about the opponent.

I obviously agree with the main objection that the AI shouldn't be able to passively decimate you on its first turn beause of supports. It's not fun. It's not cute. I would rather they just deduct three health packs at the beginning of each day than watch my team get demolished before I can do anything.

Magik can destroy special tiles, deal permanent damage and AOE damage. Mephisto can ignore protect tiles once someone is stunned and also does team-wide damage.

I know how to beat these teams, the point is I shouldn't have to keep going back to the same old characters all the time, ignoring the characters I actually WANT to play and that I've taken time to build all because the devs cant be bothered to fix ridiculously OP synergies and always give the AI near endless cascades to beat you. I mean LOOK at the AP the AI has been given? Polaris will stun or bill will use his blue. My best weapon at that point would be to stun and ignore the prospect tiles but despite me having Mephisto equipped with that Omni support whatever it's called (for God's) ive only managed to get THREE purple ap.

Bustapup

And for context here, my Mephisto is level 502 equipped with 4* Omnipotence City, Magik is boosted to 572 and using tex mex to protect her tiles (which invariably get replaced with enemy special tiles because despite my best efforts I couldn't get enough red or pink in time to stop the AI doing this) and my red guardian is 311 but boosted for the event.

Neither bill nor Polaris are boosted and I'm about to start the Toni Ho pvp and look who my first match up is.....!

WHAT IS THE POINT of having a roster like mine, building it, getting supports for it if every single time I face a team like this I have to just go back to using Morbius with 5* shaw (who murder that time every time) it's boring.

DAZ0273

When you think about how many good 4s we have had since it is ridiculous that Polaris is still no.1. What sort of power budget did she have to end up with the set of abilities they gave her? I guess this one went to 11?

DAZ0273

@Bustapup said:

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@DAZ0273 said:
Use Chasm for first turn stun (if you have him)? He really slows down these Polaris teams by depriving them of turn 0 special tiles and gives you a chance to hammer Polaris. Magik also ignores protect tiles with her red I think? Polaris more than any other character really needs nerfing but until then best you can do is stun and deprive.

I have chasm, I actually have teams I can use to easily beat this team in just bored of constantly being forced to revert back to the same old teams again and again and again because there's a meta that has a stranglehold on every single event regardless of boosted characters.

Fair enough. I actually have been running Magik in both pvp's so far and she has done OK but then we also have Jeff boosted and I haven't used him once but it seems he might have been useful here with special tile eating thing. I might try him if I see any of these sort of teams.

DAZ0273

Ok, no, Jeff is useless.