PVP Meta Counter

@WhiteBomber said:
They have to be talking about Spiderman Black, right? I don't believe there is a 3 or 4 that just negates that damage... but I am prepared to be surprised!

Ha Ha! I found it ..... It's Gorr. "While Gorr has one or more Shadow Minions on the board, he takes no extra damage from enemy Strike tiles."

Plus, Gorr takes 10% less damage from enemy matches and abilities for each Shadow Minion repeater tile.

Plus Plus, Gorr has a passive that anytime the enemy places 3 or more SAPs in a turn, he will convert them all to basics, deal damage, increase his match damage and create a 2-turn CD tile that deals 3x his increased match damage!

Or if you set his black power to level 5, he can deal damage for each Shadow repeater and then either down them if below 30% health or deal 20% of their max health, ignoring protect tiles.

This is awesome! I think everyone forgot his other abilities. He's a perfect counter to JuggSam. With 5 repeaters out, he can resist 50% damage after ignoring their strike tiles. So ascended, he can tank. Then he will remove all their strikes and buff his own match damage, thus ensuring more tanking. His offense is strong as well with lots of ability damage to take down Juggs.

More notes:
He can use Tinkerer or OmniCity
His SAP conversion bypasses BRB's passive
His Black hit bypasses BRB protects too
Electro is a good partner
4-Moonstone is a good partner
Toni Ho is a good partner
Use Sanctum on heroes for yellow

Could someone with an ascended Gorr test this out? I'm also wondering how Elektra would work with Gorr's strike tile conversion.

The problem with Gorr is that he destroys all their strikes at the end of the turn. With Copter (is it already gone in sim?) that team will cascade kill him (or just everybody else on your team, I guess) before he can remove the strikes.

I had better luck with Maximus because he hits you for every tile you create.

@LavaManLee
I'm looking for PVP counters used by players to get wins against the tough meta teams. I'm not suggesting defensive scarecrow teams. So Gorr on offense is very useful, and Sam does create 4 strikes with a single Juggernaut match. So Gorr should always be removing their strikes when their turn is over.

Now I realize that those JuggSam cascades can really hurt, but if you combine Electro or Ascended Quake with Gorr, that should take the sting away. If you want more offense, then try Elektra with Gorr plus some yellow supports. Or try Ascended Moonstone or Toni Ho.

The point of this thread is to find good counters to the meta teams, so don't put down an idea until it's been tested. I know that Electro & Elektra work because I use them regularly, but they usually need a health pack.

@Daniel2121 said:
Do the Quake and 5* Electro AOE damage reductions stack with each other? I've always wondered

Since they are both static damage number the answer is likely not.

@bbigler said:

@dianetics said:

@Daniel2121 said:
Do the Quake and 5* Electro AOE damage reductions stack with each other? I've always wondered

Since they are both static damage number the answer is likely not.

The damage reduction between Electro & Elektra does stack. Elektra reduces 50%, then Electro reduces her static number. I frequently see Juggs AOE dealing 1 damage.

The question he was answering was whether Quake and Electro stack since both are static. Electro and Elektra would be expected to stack since one is static and one is % based.

@bbigler said:
I'm thinking that a combination of Electro & Gorr could work. That should reduce damage enough during their turn before Gorr removes all their strikes the next turn. The yellow from Electro can be used to either create more repeaters or put down your own strikes to beef up the repeater damage. Black & green can also do damage. It may not be perfect, but it may work.

Perhaps we're going about this the wrong way. All you have to do is break the combo and individually you can handle them. Meaning, stun 1 of them, or send 1 away or airborne, preferably Juggernaut. I'm sure we can come up with lots of teams to do this on turn 1.

Polaris with krakoa support and b/p ap boost and all ap boosts. As long as she doesn't have a mutant team mate she'll start with enough blue ap to immediately stun an enemy.

The advantage of the Polaris team is that you're guaranteed the AP to stun. Bringing something like Widow's batons, you get no such guarantee.