***** Kang (The Conqueror) *****

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  • entrailbucket
    entrailbucket Posts: 6,879 Chairperson of the Boards

    Absolutely agree with that. It seems like Kang was rushed, maybe? Or maybe he's just complicated in the code in ways that aren't clear to us. Either way he needs some fixing and/or clarification.

  • Daredevil217
    Daredevil217 Posts: 4,088 Chairperson of the Boards

    @Bowgentle said:
    Well I'm pretty sure they didn't go through the wording on all 400+ chars they inherited when took over, yeah.
    I'd expect them to be consistent with their own characters though.
    If both Kangs are supposed to do the same with Countdowns, they should have the same text.

    Right. And they don’t have the same text. I took the 3* into DDQ and used quicksilver to swap tiles so I could match a countdown. Destroying it that way did not net extra AP. I don’t have a blue cover for the 5* yet, but if I did the same thing (destroyed a countdown tile via matching) and and it did result in AP, then I’d assume I’m right. Expiring is a form of tile destruction the same way matching is a form of tile destruction. Not saying they are synonyms. Apple and fruit are not synonyms. Apples are one type of fruit. Matching is one form of tile destruction. Line clearing is another. And perhaps tiles expiring are another. If there’s a character that opposes this theory I’m interested.

  • Bad
    Bad Posts: 3,146 Chairperson of the Boards

    Well, on my language strike tiles are translated literally as assault tiles, so I'm a bit used to figure it out all the things by myself :D .

  • dianetics
    dianetics Posts: 1,484 Chairperson of the Boards

    5* Kang only benefits from destroyed tiles, and not expired tiles. This actually makes 3* better for the 3 turn cheese team. You have to get your Hawkeye big enough to eat some hits though.

  • Bowgentle
    Bowgentle Posts: 7,926 Chairperson of the Boards
    edited February 2023

    @dianetics said:
    5* Kang only benefits from destroyed tiles, and not expired tiles. This actually makes 3* better for the 3 turn cheese team. You have to get your Hawkeye big enough to eat some hits though.

    He doesn't, though.
    The 5* also gets blue when the tiles expire.
    That was the whole point of this discussion about the wording.
    It SAYS destroyed, but works on expire.
    Try it out.

  • dianetics
    dianetics Posts: 1,484 Chairperson of the Boards

    I did try it out and it wasn’t working for me today. It worked on 3* but not 5* for whatever reason

  • dianetics
    dianetics Posts: 1,484 Chairperson of the Boards

    Oh F me it’s because I don’t have enough purple cover 😂 I’m an idiot.

  • SourCream
    SourCream Posts: 104 Tile Toppler

    Down and not downed = Victory.

    Fixed ?

    https://streamable.com/enbnbe

  • SourCream
    SourCream Posts: 104 Tile Toppler

    Down with Abyss = Revive = No Victory

    Chasm.

    https://streamable.com/8zraqs

  • dianetics
    dianetics Posts: 1,484 Chairperson of the Boards

    @Bowgentle said:
    BCS: "OK, we fixed the order of operations now."
    Chasm: "Hold my beer."

    They really boned themselves with the stun before anything happens. Chasm may be breaking himself with when the end of turn match damage is being actualized.
    I bet this issue appears with any new mechanic release, and will show up randomly until all the interactions are realized.

  • SourCream
    SourCream Posts: 104 Tile Toppler

    I'm guessing it has to do with turn and stun.
    When you down Chasm with enough Abyss tiles on board, Chasm will take over and stun you, thus can't win battle.
    Hulk will not take your turn away, thus auto win is possible.

    Just me, but I think it's fair and proper operations.

  • entrailbucket
    entrailbucket Posts: 6,879 Chairperson of the Boards
    edited February 2023

    They did something overnight last night... Kang's passive is now checking constantly to see if everyone is down or away. Like, constantly. After every single action you take, the banner/check fires.

    I haven't tested against the immortal guys but this seems like a brute-force way to fix some big.

  • DAZ0273
    DAZ0273 Posts: 11,363 Chairperson of the Boards

    Yes. Realm Shift constantly procc,'ing. I had no idea what was going on and so assumed it was something I hadn't paid attention to with my limited Kang use but nope. Something is up.

  • bladewing
    bladewing Posts: 132 Tile Toppler

    What do you guys mean by constantly processing?

    I don't have 5*Kang yet, so I can't check.

    Do you mean, like banners popping up every turn? Does it slow the game down?

  • liminal_lad
    liminal_lad Posts: 497 Mover and Shaker

    It doesn’t seem to slow the game down but it’s noticeable as a brief distraction.

  • bladewing
    bladewing Posts: 132 Tile Toppler

    @liminal_lad said:
    It doesn’t seem to slow the game down but it’s noticeable as a brief distraction.

    Good to know. Thanks!

  • entrailbucket
    entrailbucket Posts: 6,879 Chairperson of the Boards

    @bladewing said:
    What do you guys mean by constantly processing?

    I don't have 5*Kang yet, so I can't check.

    Do you mean, like banners popping up every turn? Does it slow the game down?

    Yeah, it's not a significant amount of delay, but it's a delay. The banner pops up every turn, sometimes multiple times a turn, depending on what you do. I'm not sure if there's an animation because I have those turned off.

  • bladewing
    bladewing Posts: 132 Tile Toppler

    @entrailbucket said:

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    Yeah, it's not a significant amount of delay, but it's a delay. The banner pops up every turn, sometimes multiple times a turn, depending on what you do. I'm not sure if there's an animation because I have those turned off.

    I see. Appreciate the info!

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