Advice on ascended 4*s please
Hi all!
I'm only just now getting to the point where my 4s are approaching max champ and are starting to need dupes. Ascending them will still take time (even though I fully intend to min-max them), but I'm also not hurting on covering the newest arrivals, so could sharget some of the dupes for quicker progress.
Trouble is, which one? I read so many good referrals here for amazing teams etc. I'm more uncertain then ever!
So the questions is: With the exception of Chavez and Juggs, what's the top 5 best to ascend 4*s?
(Or alternatively tell me the top 5 you love to use the most).
Many thanks 😊
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@Ed_Dragonrider said:
Hi all!I'm only just now getting to the point where my 4s are approaching max champ and are starting to need dupes. Ascending them will still take time (even though I fully intend to min-max them), but I'm also not hurting on covering the newest arrivals, so could sharget some of the dupes for quicker progress.
Trouble is, which one? I read so many good referrals here for amazing teams etc. I'm more uncertain then ever!So the questions is: With the exception of Chavez and Juggs, what's the top 5 best to ascend 4*s?
(Or alternatively tell me the top 5 you love to use the most).
Many thanks 😊
I don't know that America Chavez is a top priority for most players so I'm not sure how she got on the list.
Juggernaut is probably the most used 4* among the top players.
We'd really need a lot more information about how you play and what you like. There are a lot of these guys and very few of them are bad.
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Wasn't Coulson also a lot better when 4a5?
I don't have him there yet, but I heard he makes a lot more countdown tiles as a 4a5 as compared to 4*.1 -
Chavez doesn't have any relevance to cl10 play anymore, she was nice to have ascended previously but not a priority. It's basically Juggs and Mbaku for the typical pve meta picks nowadays. If you like special tile spam Polaris can still be good (for pvp, mainly) and ascended Nico is the best tile buffer. If you like countdown shenanigans Coulson becomes a big contributor if ascended. There are a lot of other fun picks out there but that's pretty much just what they are... fun.
I'd say you're better off concentrating on Juggs or Baku, depending on your needs.
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Agent Coulson
Ikaris
Spider-man India
Doop
Deadpoolare fun.
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@entrailbucket said:
@Ed_Dragonrider said:
Hi all!I'm only just now getting to the point where my 4s are approaching max champ and are starting to need dupes. Ascending them will still take time (even though I fully intend to min-max them), but I'm also not hurting on covering the newest arrivals, so could sharget some of the dupes for quicker progress.
Trouble is, which one? I read so many good referrals here for amazing teams etc. I'm more uncertain then ever!So the questions is: With the exception of Chavez and Juggs, what's the top 5 best to ascend 4*s?
(Or alternatively tell me the top 5 you love to use the most).
Many thanks 😊
I don't know that America Chavez is a top priority for most players so I'm not sure how she got on the list.
Juggernaut is probably the most used 4* among the top players.
We'd really need a lot more information about how you play and what you like. There are a lot of these guys and very few of them are bad.
It's simply that Chavez and Juggs are already ascended. They're my only 2. Chavez because she was in a lot of fan fave legendary stores and rng gave me a lot of covers. Even without really trying I got the dupe to 13 covers and so I wanted to see how much better she might be and ascended her.
I've been sharding and working on Juggs for months to get the JuggerSam team going.I only really play pve, and the very hard nodes can be really difficult, sometimes even impossible for me. Especially if Kangveil aren't an option for some reason. But I don't have 15min to spend on a single battle, so I guess my aim would be to get some kind of team that can handle lvl 825 teams without taking forever about it. I couldn't care less about placement.
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@Ed_Dragonrider said:
@entrailbucket said:
@Ed_Dragonrider said:
Hi all!I'm only just now getting to the point where my 4s are approaching max champ and are starting to need dupes. Ascending them will still take time (even though I fully intend to min-max them), but I'm also not hurting on covering the newest arrivals, so could sharget some of the dupes for quicker progress.
Trouble is, which one? I read so many good referrals here for amazing teams etc. I'm more uncertain then ever!So the questions is: With the exception of Chavez and Juggs, what's the top 5 best to ascend 4*s?
(Or alternatively tell me the top 5 you love to use the most).
Many thanks 😊
I don't know that America Chavez is a top priority for most players so I'm not sure how she got on the list.
Juggernaut is probably the most used 4* among the top players.
We'd really need a lot more information about how you play and what you like. There are a lot of these guys and very few of them are bad.
It's simply that Chavez and Juggs are already ascended. They're my only 2. Chavez because she was in a lot of fan fave legendary stores and rng gave me a lot of covers. Even without really trying I got the dupe to 13 covers and so I wanted to see how much better she might be and ascended her.
I've been sharding and working on Juggs for months to get the JuggerSam team going.I only really play pve, and the very hard nodes can be really difficult, sometimes even impossible for me. Especially if Kangveil aren't an option for some reason. But I don't have 15min to spend on a single battle, so I guess my aim would be to get some kind of team that can handle lvl 825 teams without taking forever about it. I couldn't care less about placement.
That's exactly what we needed to know! I can't think of any good suggestions for you, but I'm sure someone here will.
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I only have M'Baku and Juggs ascended, and both are great! Definitely a must if you are into brute force teams.
I'm going for Deathlok next, he is versatile, a team player and an AP battery to boot.
Coulson is a good target for ascension, as is Moon Dragon, Ikarus and Betsy (from what I've seen, and/or heard).
Let us know who you end up choosing.
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Thanks for all the suggestions.
M'Baku and Coulson have jumped to the top of my current priority list, and I'll keep Doop in mind for after.
If there's anyone else who would be a good (long term) focus let me know.
Thanks again, it's much appreciated.
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Assuming you value PvE and PvP both equally:
1) Baku, versatile for both and can easily take on the CNs and 5es with 3 Namor as his BFF
2) Juggernaut, almost exclusively PvP unless you don't care about speed in PvEThose are the only 2 that are generally useful even when they are not boosted. Next step down are toons that are useful when boosted, and there's quite a few, but here's what I'd put at the top of that list:
3) Rocket & Groot
4) Polaris (might deserve to be lower post nerf, but still useful)
5) Doop
6) America Chavez
7) Rogue(Gave you 7 since you asked for 5 excluding Juggs and Chavez)
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@helix72 said:
Assuming you value PvE and PvP both equally:1) Baku, versatile for both and can easily take on the CNs and 5es with 3 Namor as his BFF
2) Juggernaut, almost exclusively PvP unless you don't care about speed in PvEThose are the only 2 that are generally useful even when they are not boosted. Next step down are toons that are useful when boosted, and there's quite a few, but here's what I'd put at the top of that list:
3) Rocket & Groot
4) Polaris (might deserve to be lower post nerf, but still useful)
5) Doop
6) America Chavez
7) Rogue(Gave you 7 since you asked for 5 excluding Juggs and Chavez)
Doop is plenty useful when not boosted.
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Polaris is still good, either with Rocket or with Sam especially if you have a good Low Level AI support. Coulson is really good, but whether it's personal inertia or not, he is tied to 5* hawkeye for me. Other than that I've just been ascending everybody, and playing around with them when boosted.
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I have a 1A4 Hawkeye with stun batons, SC with Lucky for the critical tile boost, and 5* Agatha (she can add purple tiles and has a match damage bonus) with Quantum Realm team that works well. For the essential 5* nodes you can swap Quantum Realm to the essential 5*. If you don’t start with any purple AP just retreat. Just keep firing HE’s purple matching with purple and you can win pretty quickly on turn 0. You may need to occasionally fire HE or SC red to get more purple or manipulate the board some.
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If you only play PVE, then fortunately Juggy is really the 4 star you need to ascend, the rest are 3s or already 5.
Just in case you were looking to have fun or play PvP:
- A little sad to not see Multiman mentioned, he's top tier IMO
- Moonstone also top tier offensively, though she doesn't need ascension, it speeds things up
- DareDevil has multiple good uses that benefit from ascension
- Coulson is OP but way too slow... like, ruins the fun slow.
- Betsy and Avalon, both very fun and useful
- Magik very good with the right friends
- Throg, if you like to party, very fun
- India is part of a 1 shot kill team
- Max, quite decent
- Northstar fun and decent, esp with Baku
- Beast is amazing with Agatha5 infinites
- I have a hunch that Aikku is quite good, I'll let you know in 2028
The list goes on, but depends on what play style you're looking for
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@WhiteBomber said:
If you only play PVE, then fortunately Juggy is really the 4 star you need to ascend, the rest are 3s or already 5.Just in case you were looking to have fun or play PvP:
- A little sad to not see Multiman mentioned, he's top tier IMO
- Moonstone also top tier offensively, though she doesn't need ascension, it speeds things up
- DareDevil has multiple good uses that benefit from ascension
- Coulson is OP but way too slow... like, ruins the fun slow.
- Betsy and Avalon, both very fun and useful
- Magik very good with the right friends
- Throg, if you like to party, very fun
- India is part of a 1 shot kill team
- Max, quite decent
- Northstar fun and decent, esp with Baku
- Beast is amazing with Agatha5 infinites
- I have a hunch that Aikku is quite good, I'll let you know in 2028
The list goes on, but depends on what play style you're looking for
I don't quite see Multiman as top tier. Assuming he is in the "looking to have fun" category?
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@LavaManLee said:
@WhiteBomber said:
If you only play PVE, then fortunately Juggy is really the 4 star you need to ascend, the rest are 3s or already 5.Just in case you were looking to have fun or play PvP:
- A little sad to not see Multiman mentioned, he's top tier IMO
- Moonstone also top tier offensively, though she doesn't need ascension, it speeds things up
- DareDevil has multiple good uses that benefit from ascension
- Coulson is OP but way too slow... like, ruins the fun slow.
- Betsy and Avalon, both very fun and useful
- Magik very good with the right friends
- Throg, if you like to party, very fun
- India is part of a 1 shot kill team
- Max, quite decent
- Northstar fun and decent, esp with Baku
- Beast is amazing with Agatha5 infinites
- I have a hunch that Aikku is quite good, I'll let you know in 2028
The list goes on, but depends on what play style you're looking for
I don't quite see Multiman as top tier. Assuming he is in the "looking to have fun" category?
Someone, maybe Whitebomber, ran the numbers on Multiman, and he hits like a freight train when ascended. His instawin is harder to achieve, but he does damage.
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@MegaBee said:
@LavaManLee said:
@WhiteBomber said:
If you only play PVE, then fortunately Juggy is really the 4 star you need to ascend, the rest are 3s or already 5.Just in case you were looking to have fun or play PvP:
- A little sad to not see Multiman mentioned, he's top tier IMO
- Moonstone also top tier offensively, though she doesn't need ascension, it speeds things up
- DareDevil has multiple good uses that benefit from ascension
- Coulson is OP but way too slow... like, ruins the fun slow.
- Betsy and Avalon, both very fun and useful
- Magik very good with the right friends
- Throg, if you like to party, very fun
- India is part of a 1 shot kill team
- Max, quite decent
- Northstar fun and decent, esp with Baku
- Beast is amazing with Agatha5 infinites
- I have a hunch that Aikku is quite good, I'll let you know in 2028
The list goes on, but depends on what play style you're looking for
I don't quite see Multiman as top tier. Assuming he is in the "looking to have fun" category?
Someone, maybe Whitebomber, ran the numbers on Multiman, and he hits like a freight train when ascended. His instawin is harder to achieve, but he does damage.
Totally appreciate the info. I'm assuming this is more for PvE than PvP? I don't see him at all in PvP and imagine he would be there if he is that good. Meta teams are hard to avoid and I never see him at all in PvP.
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@LavaManLee said:
@MegaBee said:
@LavaManLee said:
@WhiteBomber said:
If you only play PVE, then fortunately Juggy is really the 4 star you need to ascend, the rest are 3s or already 5.Just in case you were looking to have fun or play PvP:
- A little sad to not see Multiman mentioned, he's top tier IMO
- Moonstone also top tier offensively, though she doesn't need ascension, it speeds things up
- DareDevil has multiple good uses that benefit from ascension
- Coulson is OP but way too slow... like, ruins the fun slow.
- Betsy and Avalon, both very fun and useful
- Magik very good with the right friends
- Throg, if you like to party, very fun
- India is part of a 1 shot kill team
- Max, quite decent
- Northstar fun and decent, esp with Baku
- Beast is amazing with Agatha5 infinites
- I have a hunch that Aikku is quite good, I'll let you know in 2028
The list goes on, but depends on what play style you're looking for
I don't quite see Multiman as top tier. Assuming he is in the "looking to have fun" category?
Someone, maybe Whitebomber, ran the numbers on Multiman, and he hits like a freight train when ascended. His instawin is harder to achieve, but he does damage.
Totally appreciate the info. I'm assuming this is more for PvE than PvP? I don't see him at all in PvP and imagine he would be there if he is that good. Meta teams are hard to avoid and I never see him at all in PvP.
Chicken/egg problem. Everybody only uses the same few "best" guys, so everybody only levels up the same few "best" guys, so everybody only uses the same few "best" guys.
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@LavaManLee said:
@WhiteBomber said:
If you only play PVE, then fortunately Juggy is really the 4 star you need to ascend, the rest are 3s or already 5.Just in case you were looking to have fun or play PvP:
- A little sad to not see Multiman mentioned, he's top tier IMO
- Moonstone also top tier offensively, though she doesn't need ascension, it speeds things up
- DareDevil has multiple good uses that benefit from ascension
- Coulson is OP but way too slow... like, ruins the fun slow.
- Betsy and Avalon, both very fun and useful
- Magik very good with the right friends
- Throg, if you like to party, very fun
- India is part of a 1 shot kill team
- Max, quite decent
- Northstar fun and decent, esp with Baku
- Beast is amazing with Agatha5 infinites
- I have a hunch that Aikku is quite good, I'll let you know in 2028
The list goes on, but depends on what play style you're looking for
I don't quite see Multiman as top tier. Assuming he is in the "looking to have fun" category?
Well well well, give me the opportunity to promote my work and I shall!
I will clarify first:
He is (IMO) top tier for offensive PvP. I actually never use him in PVE, even though you could. However, his value comes in that can win any fight, and not like scrape by, he usually wins it very convincingly and without the need for health packs. He is also (IM surely factual O) the most versatile character in the game (which is also fun, for me).I personally use him in PvP all of the time when I want to win a lot without heals. Though, I reckon you dont see him out and about because:
1) He takes a decent amount of understanding and work (who wants to think, when you can cast green turn 1 with Maynkie?)
2) He's not usually as fast as IronMay or Sam.
3) He is not good defensively (AI could never play him)
4) Not enough people know? And he wants to be ascended.Someone who basically can't lose (in the right hands) is a top tier must for me, but coincidentally also very fun.
Hope that clarifies, but if not, see immensely more detail here: https://forums.d3go.com/discussion/92745/holy-ship-a-friday-multiman-guide/p1
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Thanks so much for the info. Appreciate it very much.
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Ascended Coulson deals rapid damage with Cosmic IM and Hobgoblin. Use supports to start spamming IM’s red&yellow which feed each other (Avengers Tower support on IM) and generate blue for Hobgoblin, who pops all of Coulson’s CD’s.
If one round of this doesn’t down the opposing team, just repeat the process again, which will pop IM’s CDs, generating even more red and yellow.
I just used this team (IM lv 490, Hobgoblin lv 453, and Coulson lv 450) to take out a 550 Jugg/Flaptain team in Simulator.4
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