PVP Supports: Feedback Thread

Seph1roth5

I wish Shaw had been released as a 5, he would've been awesome. A mthor counter and tank, both of which are lacking in 5land. Yeah you can ascend him but that takes a big chunk of time.

He also depowers SAP tiles doesn't he? That would counter a lot of troublesome people as well, like BRB or even mayday.

Borstock

Let's not turn this into another nerf character thread.

JoeHandle

@Seph1roth5 said:
I wish Shaw had been released as a 5, he would've been awesome. A mthor counter and tank, both of which are lacking in 5land. Yeah you can ascend him but that takes a big chunk of time.

He also depowers SAP tiles doesn't he? That would counter a lot of troublesome people as well, like BRB or even mayday.

His %ages shift as a 5* but the functionality remains the same:

kuntilanak

With the support enabled in PVP, it really sucks out any remaining 'fun' out if it after the 'metas' stomping everything to the ground. Simply because most of the perks from support rely on RNG, and i can't mention it enough: IT ALWAYS SIDES WITH THEOPPONENT. At least that's my experience so far. So, I'm hoping dev will U-turn to not enable support in PVP...

Seph1roth5

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@Seph1roth5 said:
I wish Shaw had been released as a 5, he would've been awesome. A mthor counter and tank, both of which are lacking in 5land. Yeah you can ascend him but that takes a big chunk of time.

He also depowers SAP tiles doesn't he? That would counter a lot of troublesome people as well, like BRB or even mayday.

His %ages shift as a 5* but the functionality remains the same:

Ya but even with his absorption stuff, he's not going to be in front most of the time as a 4*, which is where you want him.

Pylgrim

Real talk: I miss supports now. I've been playing PVP today and I noticed this:

• Longer games
• More Health Packs used
• Defensive wins went back down to 0% from the 15-20% I was getting with supports
• Overall less fun as fewer interactions and powers used
• Pretty much the same rate of offensive losses. Yes, with supports I had several turn-1 losses, but now I am getting losses from games were I languish trying to collect AP for the powers I need from a contrarian board while the AI just eventually ends me with one of its patented **** endless cascades. (Yes, I know Chasm and Omega Red exist, along other AP-less meta guys, no, I don't have them.)
• Greatly diminished confidence at trying to punch up.

Note I am not some kind of big spender with incredible supports. I just have a bunch of poorly leveled up 3* supports, and yet they were making a big difference. Bring back supports to PVP.

Daredevil217

Wait they removed supports!? RIP Leapfrog!

BriMan2222

I'm hearing supports are back on for deadpool pvp, and with aunt may boosted turn zero wins are a thing.

LavaManLee

@Daredevil217 said:
Wait they removed supports!? RIP Leapfrog!

Looks like there was a blip with Claws for Concern. It didn't have the "Season" banner even though points count for the season and you could equip supports to your characters, they just didn't do anything.

Codex

@Daredevil217 said:
Wait they removed supports!? RIP Leapfrog!

To me it looks like events like claws for concern, class of....., evergreen, may have a different code. So someone forgot to implement the new add support part of the code. And rather than telling us about it; lets remain silent and move onto the next pvp.

That's my guess without having any insight on how any coding works. Atleast now they know about it and will probably fix it for the anniversary season.

entrailbucket

Changed my mind -- they should give us supports in PvP, but only when Chasm and m'Thor are boosted at the same time. Actually, maybe give us supports, free boosts, free health packs, and double points for that week too.

AlexR

My matches are way quicker and smoother in Claws for Concern without supports on defense enabled! Lady Thor doesn't become totally broken with Omnipotence City! Yes, she's boosted, but I'd much rather deal with her like this than with OC equipped. Matches aren't dragged out to infinity by Eros' arrow! Boosted characters don't gain a truckload of free AI on battlestart to offload their nuke instantly!

I love this. Now I'm not constantly at a disadvantage! Can we go back to this? This feels nice.

Borstock

Loved it. Fast matches and no garbage where 1* Juggs or 1*Spidey dominate.

_TrashPanda

PvP without Supports was a slog. Thank God they are back. I missed them

CHRISJN

Good job bringing back supports. Now let me continue one shot non maxed 5* AUNT MAY/EMMA

slidecage

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@Scofie said:
I think there are 2 schools of thought here: Playing for placement and playing for wins. It seems the first group are in general, unhappy with supports in PvP and the second group are, generally happy, though this is based upon one event.

My view - I was never competing for anything other than T25 at best or T50. For the Trenchcoat event I finished 51st after dropping 2 places in the last seconds. My score was not great, I got hit way more than before, but wins were easier and quicker. I played an extra few matches as a result.

Overall it was pretty much the same for me. I can see the need for more shields now though and understand how it could be very expensive HP-wise. But the extra rewards from shielding aren't worth the HP to me, so I'll not bother much and I'll take the hits and lost points and hit back a bit more. It's added a bit more thinking and a bit more trying to beat the team in front of me rather just playing with my best characters.

How is shields very expensive hp wise
Unless I'm so out of it. Don't you just shield in the last 8 hours (most peoplle
Unless you don't get hammered as I'm thinking

How I play
Day 1 normal
Day 2 to end normal shield last 8 hours

Now maybe I'm wrong but if you played day 1 say you got to 900 pts and shield for 8 hours. .. you come up for hits and play wouldn't you be hit faster then you could play

meaning if say i was 1200 came out of shield. Played a game won 49 points I would think you get hit so many times it wouldn't be worth it

Or do people play like crazy first day then just apply sheild after shield till the last 8 or less hours and play (then again I would think you be hit faster then you could play (

Then again maybe I'm wrong and probably are im so wacked out sm at a target and should be working at a meijers

Shield would cost what 2400 max per event

I only do like 8 hours on Sunday and don't think I use any rest of week

Top 100 or top 50 good enough

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Spelling mistake and Grammer nightmare due to cold and nokia 100

O how I hate this Nokia 100 phone

The main thing that has changed is that hp and shields are now cheap compared to their old scarcity. By this I just mean, the avg t50 player and certainly any t25 or better can afford near unlimited shield hops. No, people don't really play that way in general (3hops every 8hrs). But none of those players are under a strict shield budget and the flood of slots has really eliminated HP gold pressure.

Must be getting into sucky groups. I take top 50 without shield if I get around 600 or so

If I wasn't in a g> @CHRISJN said:

Good job bringing back supports. Now let me continue one shot non maxed 5* AUNT MAY/EMMA

25 wins in less then 20 mins who cares how many pts lost. I got my 25 wins good enough

revskip

Glad they brought the supports back. Feels better this way.

Sandilord

It's been years since I logged onto the forums but feel like I must now. I've been playing and loving this game since almost the beginning of MPQ, joined somewhere in the first year.
I'm baffled and frightened about the responses from players regarding supports in pvp in this thread (very different in our alliance family Line chat)

I never considered quiting the game but I'm very close now. Supports in pvp have sucked out all the fun I had. It's completely unpredictable now and besides the powers from 100s of characters, I now also have to know all these supports powers and check them out before every match. And most importantly some supports break the game.
I'm one of the commanders of a pvp oriented alliance and weve lost about 5 burnt out players at the end of this season because of this. If supports in pvp stay I'll probably step out too and move away from this game.

I sincerely hope there will at the very least an option to enable or disable supports to our own likings and starting next season or it might be too late for a lot of players.

WhiteBomber

Counter:

I will play a few extra PVP matches every day for each player that claims they are leaving because of supports (though I think we all know they were burnt out to begin with).

I've been playing since the very beginning and very much appreciate you devs breathing life in to PVP, it's just an added bonus I also win harder on offense and more defense with supports.

revskip

@WhiteBomber said:
Counter:

I will play a few extra PVP matches every day for each player that claims they are leaving because of supports (though I think we all know they were burnt out to begin with).

I've been playing since the very beginning and very much appreciate you devs breathing life in to PVP, it's just an added bonus I also win harder on offense and more defense with supports.

Seconded. Thanks for leaving. Made it that much easier to get placement at even lower scores.