***** Kang (The Conqueror) *****

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  • Sekilicious
    Sekilicious Posts: 1,766 Chairperson of the Boards
    edited February 2023

    I think my original post mentioned an undercovered Kang. So delete your champed Hawkeye and then try.

  • DAZ0273
    DAZ0273 Posts: 11,329 Chairperson of the Boards

    @Sekilicious said:
    Hawkeye isn’t even a choice for the vast majority of players. Not everyone was lucky to have a hoard the last time he was offered. Or to have his feeder at 370.

    Agreed. However this just seems a preliminary team, once Kang gets out there I suspect we will see ever advancing broken teams. 3* Gambit took a little while to be hopelessly broken after release.

    But for those that do have Clint (again, not me to any good level!), well the game just got even easier. They are gonna have to rename these things from Challenge Node to "Minor Annoyance" Node at this rate. Leaving aside the Spider guy who should not mentioned, Kang is looking like he might be helplessly broken.

  • Bowgentle
    Bowgentle Posts: 7,926 Chairperson of the Boards

    This CN two moves should be OK with everyone.
    That Kraven or Bill/Thor one... Maybe not so easy.

  • HoundofShadow
    HoundofShadow Posts: 8,004 Chairperson of the Boards
    edited February 2023

    There are also supports that reduces match damage taken. A 20% or more reduction is pretty significant. As mentioned, as long as you have the right stuff, it's going to benefit speed clearing

    I'm going to see if 18 minutes will help me secure T5 in scl 10 pves.

  • entrailbucket
    entrailbucket Posts: 6,846 Chairperson of the Boards

    If you can't survive two enemy moves, how can you win ANY challenge node?

  • Bowgentle
    Bowgentle Posts: 7,926 Chairperson of the Boards

    Don't ask me.
    There's lower rosters who need to answer that.

  • HoundofShadow
    HoundofShadow Posts: 8,004 Chairperson of the Boards
    edited February 2023

    If it's Carbage/Kitty/Kraven based nodes, I won't be using Kang. I might use Kang against Kitty if I can fire IM40's yellow twice.

  • KGB
    KGB Posts: 3,657 Chairperson of the Boards

    @entrailbucket said:
    If you can't survive two enemy moves, how can you win ANY challenge node?

    Only a few CN's are truly challenging in that you need to win in 3 moves or less.

    I routinely beat the 650 nodes with a 330 BRB & She Hulk + 360 Polaris without even any need for boosts. All I have are the 2 true heal supports when matching my own specials which keeps them alive for a few turns till I get Blue for Polaris or Green for She Hulk.

    KGB

  • DAZ0273
    DAZ0273 Posts: 11,329 Chairperson of the Boards

    @KGB said:

    Only a few CN's are truly challenging in that you need to win in 3 moves or less.

    I routinely beat the 650 nodes with a 330 BRB & She Hulk + 360 Polaris without even any need for boosts. All I have are the 2 true heal supports when matching my own specials which keeps them alive for a few turns till I get Blue for Polaris or Green for She Hulk.

    KGB

    Oh is She Hulk the new Winfinite plug in? I can see that.

  • entrailbucket
    entrailbucket Posts: 6,846 Chairperson of the Boards

    Ok here is a video. My Hawkeye takes a little more than 5000 damage during this "fight."

    https://streamable.com/azsobq

    Note that 5* Kang is not necessary here. The 3* does the same thing.

  • Bowgentle
    Bowgentle Posts: 7,926 Chairperson of the Boards

    Lack of yellow supports will make this a little more challenging, but yeah... Sheesh.

  • DAZ0273
    DAZ0273 Posts: 11,329 Chairperson of the Boards

    @entrailbucket said:
    Ok here is a video. My Hawkeye takes a little more than 5000 damage during this "fight."

    https://streamable.com/azsobq

    Note that 5* Kang is not necessary here. The 3* does the same thing.

    Lol! Nerf Iron Man!

  • entrailbucket
    entrailbucket Posts: 6,846 Chairperson of the Boards

    I guess I did a bad job of describing "hilariously broken?" The video really speaks for itself. If your roster is somehow so low level that you can't survive 5000 damage, then you're probably not able to play cl10 at all.

  • Bowgentle
    Bowgentle Posts: 7,926 Chairperson of the Boards

    Yeah it took that video for me to realize just HOW broken that is.

  • KGB
    KGB Posts: 3,657 Chairperson of the Boards

    Nice video.

    But you obviously needed your supports to kick in for the extra yellow to be able to fire Iron Mans recharge on turn 1. What happens when you don't get lucky and only get +4 starting Yellow and don't have a Yellow match?

    KGB

  • entrailbucket
    entrailbucket Posts: 6,846 Chairperson of the Boards

    Someone can work out the math to find the chance of an opening board having a single yellow match -- it's probably higher than you think. The probabilities are beyond me but should be relatively easy to figure out.

    But I guess the answer is: retreat until you do?

  • killahKlown
    killahKlown Posts: 585 Critical Contributor
    edited February 2023

    @Vhailorx said:
    But you obviously needed your supports to kick in for the extra yellow to be able to fire Iron Mans recharge on turn 1. What happens when you don't get lucky and only get +4 starting Yellow and don't have a Yellow match?

    Luckily there are multiple supports that can start you out with plenty of yellow

  • Bowgentle
    Bowgentle Posts: 7,926 Chairperson of the Boards

    I mean the answer is it takes a couple more turns.
    That's still faster than anything below 550 metas.

  • HoundofShadow
    HoundofShadow Posts: 8,004 Chairperson of the Boards

    The answer is to wait for dev to introduce shards for Supports and then u have 80% chance of getting +6 yellow aps.

    The question is: who's going to get nerfed first? Kang or Chasm?

  • entrailbucket
    entrailbucket Posts: 6,846 Chairperson of the Boards

    Sorry, nerfs are universally disastrous, in literally every circumstance.

    What we need now is a counter to Kang, and I guess they'll have to put him in every single PvE node?

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