Grand Experiment 2: Treading Water in the SCL 10 Post-Shardpocalypse

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  • Sp1d3r
    Sp1d3r Posts: 187 Tile Toppler

    @Punter1 said:
    I copied you and rostered all the 1*s after seeing your comment from Dec 7. Also figured I would have them done easily! Of those I didn't have already, Storm, Hawkeye and Venom finished, the latter just today. Spidey at 8 covers and Yelena just 3.

    3* Monkey already at 4/4/2 thanks to fave shards and boosted pull %

    Thanks for this I didn't realise u could fave hit monkey yet.. can't normally fave new characters straight away

  • Punter1
    Punter1 Posts: 732 Critical Contributor

    @Sp1d3r said:

    @Punter1 said:
    I copied you and rostered all the 1*s after seeing your comment from Dec 7. Also figured I would have them done easily! Of those I didn't have already, Storm, Hawkeye and Venom finished, the latter just today. Spidey at 8 covers and Yelena just 3.

    3* Monkey already at 4/4/2 thanks to fave shards and boosted pull %

    Thanks for this I didn't realise u could fave hit monkey yet.. can't normally fave new characters straight away

    Yup only with the new 3*s. They are promoted and easily available. It's how my Arcade is 250 already and Hit Monkey at 172

    In other news 1* Spidey finished today. Leaves lowly limited Yelena at 4 covers

  • ThaRoadWarrior
    ThaRoadWarrior Posts: 9,564 Chairperson of the Boards

    They do seem to be doing a pretty good job of making the new 3s available; even without ever setting it to favorite my Arcade is at 203. Hit monkey is 0/5/2 though.

  • ThaRoadWarrior
    ThaRoadWarrior Posts: 9,564 Chairperson of the Boards

    Deathlok is champed. Definitely feels weird to have this thread suddenly be about completing the 1* tier lol.

  • HoundofShadow
    HoundofShadow Posts: 8,004 Chairperson of the Boards

    Back to basic.

  • Sekilicious
    Sekilicious Posts: 1,766 Chairperson of the Boards
    edited December 2022

    Turns out 1* and fully classics is the last leg to endgame for non hoarding players. Who knew?

  • ThaRoadWarrior
    ThaRoadWarrior Posts: 9,564 Chairperson of the Boards

    Definitely - 1* characters are totally dead end roster slot fillers without champ rewards, so there is no reason to have them until you have nothing else to collect. I'm still not sure I'd have done it had they not said they were thinking about tweaking them in the Q&A.

  • HoundofShadow
    HoundofShadow Posts: 8,004 Chairperson of the Boards

    1* Black Widow's blue is a popular teamup to send. Time to roster five 0/5 Black Widow to give as teamups? It has fast cooldown as well. 1* Spiderman purple is also good: creates two random critical tiles for 6 ap.

  • ThaRoadWarrior
    ThaRoadWarrior Posts: 9,564 Chairperson of the Boards

    my alliance really doesn't ask for teamups often, so I probably won't do that

  • Punter1
    Punter1 Posts: 732 Critical Contributor

    I've had 3x MBW for a long time. Not had Yelena rostered for ever (or ever?) and hadn't realized how elusive she was. Will my 5* Hit Monkey be done before I pull 10x Yelena... probably not

  • rainkingucd
    rainkingucd Posts: 1,532 Chairperson of the Boards

    I was just 8.5 covers away on my Reptil to finish Havok as my final classic 5*. With Polaris finally confirmed, Havok will be champed in 2 days time. I guess I'll switch my 4* over to MODOK or Domino to continue the feeder support.

    I also started on 1* now that roster slots are cheaper. I am missing 1 Spider-man, 1 Storm, and 4 Yelena covers to finish the tier.

  • ThaRoadWarrior
    ThaRoadWarrior Posts: 9,564 Chairperson of the Boards

    @entrailbucket how (if at all) have these broken circle 5* rebalances affected your 550 experience?

  • ThaRoadWarrior
    ThaRoadWarrior Posts: 9,564 Chairperson of the Boards
    edited December 2022

    I have once again "won" MPQ after this great shardmas haul. I closed out the 1,000 5* covers milestone to champ Arcade, who then hit the champ 75 5* characters milestone leaving me with just Riri and Hit Monkey unchamped at the 5* tier (and only dupes to champ at the 4* tier). For the time being, I'm sitting on LTs and walking my 5* shard target around to characters with <100 to gain a level as I pull from classic. Juggernaut is up to 348, getting pretty close along with my 361 4ocket to being able to single-swipe any easy node without adjusting the order of the enemies (right now if one or more of them have 4500hp or more you have to adjust the order to hit them first so the double-tap of damage will knock them out; there are a couple nodes with more than one of those, making it a 2-swipe or cascade hunt win). My 3* is currently on hit monkey, he is at 3/7/3.

    Current Latest:
    Frost:456 with 231 shards
    She-Hulk: 457 with
    Arcade: 450 with 124 shards

    NEW:
    Riri 3.0:1/1/1 with 1035 shards
    Hit-Monkey: 1/1/1 with 375 shards

    I'm really curious when/if we'll see some love given to the milestone quests since i'm pretty end-game on those as well. All I have left are:

    • 798,408/1,000,000 Matches
    • 6,152,116/10,000,000 Iso-8 to level your heroes
    • 2,082/2500 Team Ups
    • 76,065/10,000 boosts
    • 237/400 Shields in Versus (i'll likely never close this tree out)
    • 5,986/8,000 powers for 4-star heroes
    • 172/250 promote 2* heroes into a champion
    • 117/160 promote 3* heroes into a champion
    • 136/150 promote 4* horoes into a champion
    • 75/100 promote 5* heroes into a champion
  • HoundofShadow
    HoundofShadow Posts: 8,004 Chairperson of the Boards

    I think I would save up those cps just in case they release 6* next year.

  • ThaRoadWarrior
    ThaRoadWarrior Posts: 9,564 Chairperson of the Boards

    It's probably not a bad idea, but I guess we'll see if that happens and how flatfooted we all are for it. I really couldn't guess whether that would go over well or not with players. If we assume they get worked into the 5* trees at some level the way 5* has been worked into 4* trees under this regime, people with a broad base of decently champed 5* may be just as prepared as those with loads of CP.

  • Bowgentle
    Bowgentle Posts: 7,926 Chairperson of the Boards
    edited December 2022

    @HoundofShadow said:
    I think I would save up those cps just in case they release 6* next year.

    Ah your new "sky is falling" explanation for BCS being less stingy than Demi in giving out retro rewards and new 5s.
    Don't bother quoting the Q&A where they hinted at the vague possibility that 6* may eventually come. I've read that. Might be 10 years down the line. Might be never.

  • ThaRoadWarrior
    ThaRoadWarrior Posts: 9,564 Chairperson of the Boards

    At the moment, i'm more inclined to expect a shuffling of the difficulty/reward structure for the various SCLs before we see a 6* show up. I wouldn't think they are going to appear before 2024 if they are on the near to mid term roadmap at all based on the other things they've been saying with more definitive answers. Rostering 1* characters was a low effort/risk speculation to take based on that vague answer we got about champs coming maybe one day for that tier.

  • HoundofShadow
    HoundofShadow Posts: 8,004 Chairperson of the Boards
    edited December 2022

    Even before BCS took over, that was one of the outcomes I'm expecting. And my expectation has always been consistent and that is: if the dev (regardless of whether it was Demiurge back then or BCS currently) decides to flood players with 5* covers or devalue 5*, then they are either planning to shut down the game or they are going to make some big change, and 6* or pseudo 6* (Supports) has always been one of the big changes I'm expecting. So, it's not new and I can dig out those posts before the existence of BCS.

    Plans are executed in stages, and I don't expect the dev to release 6* or pseudo 6* immediately after giving us Shardmas because that leaves a bad taste and that's terrible marketing. There will be cooling period before they reveal the plan. I'll give them before MPQ 10th year Anniversary to reveal the big change that I'm expecting. If there isn't plan, then I'll just enjoy MPQ as much as possible.

    Reward changes in SCL will come together with 6* or pseudo 6* reveal to soften the "pain".

  • ThaRoadWarrior
    ThaRoadWarrior Posts: 9,564 Chairperson of the Boards

    I don’t doubt that is the logical progression. I believe supports will come before 6* probably, but I also think 6* will hit the game at some point. This game is long past the point where it would have made sense to develop a Marvel Puzzle Quest 2, so it will be interesting to see what a geriatric mobile game like this will do in its golden years.

  • Vhailorx
    Vhailorx Posts: 6,085 Chairperson of the Boards
    edited December 2022

    @ThaRoadWarrior said:
    I don’t doubt that is the logical progression. I believe supports will come before 6* probably, but I also think 6* will hit the game at some point. This game is long past the point where it would have made sense to develop a Marvel Puzzle Quest 2, so it will be interesting to see what a geriatric mobile game like this will do in its golden years.

    BCS must have some plan for moving past the current state of the game, or else flooding the field with 5*s the way they have done this past month makes no sense). A revision to the support system seems like a logical next step to me since it's easier to revise an implemented system than create a new one, and the timeline for a late winter or spring support redesign would be plausible in terms of dev time (a little over a year since they entered the game and 9 or 10 months after they took over full time).

    After that is done, however, it still seems to me that game will need a new trophy tier to chase as 5* s have become (relatively) attainable for dedicated players. Is 7 years post-release enough time with a 5* meta to assuage the concerns of level 500+ rosters?

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