The ChaHulk meta

If they're using Chasm/Hulk, you can go in with +5 stacks to match damage and just target hulk over and over with Chasm/Thano5 and be pretty successful until you start to get matched up to the big boys. I guess I'll do that to 500 at least. Notable interactions between Chasm and Thanos:

Chasm will die and revive if there are Abyss tiles present and you have an Infinite Power tile in play, but he just won't destroy the Abyss tiles. This is a bummer offensively, but it works for your own Chasm so it's kind of a wash i guess. Similarly, if you mess up and kill Chasm first, he will die and revive with the stun prior to your Court Death triggering, which prevents your court death going off, so you then have to start all over again.

I'm also curious as to why Chasm v Chasm matches always start off with a mirror stun, rather than iterating the attacker first, then the defender, which would Ideally just leave your team unstunned at battle start.

Chasm and Thanos have even more weird intereactions. One of these matches with a pair of chasms in it I actually did get stun priority on battle start, I really can't tell what was different aside from perhaps some kind of RNG quirk there. there are also times where Chasm dies, comes back and does the stun, but Thanos will be unaffected by it even though the enemy iHulk and your own Chasm will be 2-turn stunned (without taking the damage).

When facing an iHulk, you do what the revive to happen before Court Death is triggered so that the returning hulk will eat it's damage again, but when it happens with Chasm and he gets to do the stun interrupt it really prolongs the loop.

@HoundofShadow said:
It's the positioning. If their Chasm is on the right and yours on the left (from team selection screen), your team won't get stunned. Double stun happens if both Chasm are on the left.

I don't think the weird interaction is limited to Thanos/Chasm. Thanos is the one with weird order of operation for his Court Death. Sometimes his Court Death will cut off other ally's passive and sometimes he doesn't. I don't think positioning is the problem but I believe it has to do with coding.

It has to do with passives triggered off matching, I think. If one of those happens, Thanos' Court Death will happily jump in also. If not, it will wait until the board has settled to activate.

I was close to sitting this PvP out, but there were enough Crystal and Chasm teams out there to get to 1200. Surprised me.

On my MMR it's crazier than ever.
Just 500 points and I am 85th. And it's a release for a possible meta character!
But boosted chasm is too tiresome.
And I don't feel motivated enough for to lose 5 minutes on each battle, and each battle only worths 35 points.

Is Arcade actually bad? People are saying his 3* is one of the best in the tier, so was hoping the 5* would surprise people once more get him champed. I haven’t really messed around with either.

Did many folks have him champed though? That’s why I wasn’t running him myself. He’s one like Chasm that’s too complex on paper for me to get without trying him in practice. Since his damage is based on number of traps, I need to see in real time how easy it is to flood the board and if the damage per trap is big enough to make him viable.

Many saw “trap tiles” and wrote him off and am wondering how many actually played him before doing so. I’m not saying he’s good by any means. Just I have no idea how good bad his wall o text abilities are.

As soon as theres a reliably fast pick two this will stop being an issue.
I agree with a lot of you though pvp has become stale real quick.
I personally think its lazy of the new devs to make another unkillable so hes a "must have" and feel the previous devs knew it would hurt pvp introducing a character like chasm, thats probably why they never did it themselves...

Couple of Thoughts:

1) I personally don't think Chasm should be nerfed as I'm not a fan of nerfing. Rather, introducing a RPS (Rock, Paper, Scissors) counter character would be way better. The recent buff to Silver Surfer was an encouraging attempt as a RPS to Chasm, however, the idea failed due to a couple things: (a) Surfer's 12 black cost is still WAY too high to be able to negate Chasm's AP steal. I feel like all the RPS would need is to (i) Prevents team & reduces match damage, (ii) Prevents AP theft from either team, (iii) Kills Regen abilities against both friend & allys, (iv) is immune to stun, (v) they should be decently "tankish" like Colossus. Ideally make them all passive abilities. By making them prevent AP theft by either team & Kills regen abilities on both sides, it would prevent people from using them with Chasm & discourage people from using them all the time, thus increasing RPS play in SIM & PvP. That would also make them easy to pair with whoever people wanted in 2-Character matches, likely someone with a strong KO. They also wouldn't be OP enough that Chasm would be "relegated to the shelf to collect dust" like what happened to Gambit after his Hard nerf.

2) They could just update Kitty's power to include replacing all "enemy special tiles"? That way Brb/ Kitty would effectively provide a decent counter against Chasm.

3) Why doesn't Knull's passive "Amortal Coil - Friendly Special Tiles" include Chasm tiles?