***** Thor (Mighty Thor) *****

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  • LavaManLee
    LavaManLee Posts: 1,704 Chairperson of the Boards
    She is completely insane.  Stuff just.....happens.  I think there actually is a bit TOO much stuff going on.  With Shang Chi, I find myself calculating each turn.  With 5Jane, I feel like it's "let's push this button and see what happens".  Not bad, but definitely odd to have no idea what happens next.  Makes it very hard to plan moves in advance.
  • Tiger_Wong
    Tiger_Wong Posts: 1,098 Chairperson of the Boards
    LavaManLee said:
    She is completely insane.  Stuff just.....happens.  I think there actually is a bit TOO much stuff going on.  With Shang Chi, I find myself calculating each turn.  With 5Jane, I feel like it's "let's push this button and see what happens".  Not bad, but definitely odd to have no idea what happens next.  Makes it very hard to plan moves in advance.
    I 100% agree with this. And I’m only using the loner and stuff is just blowing up all over. In the strangest way, Jane looks like an anti Wanda/Collossus because 

    - she’s gonna blow up that repeater. That thing doesn’t stay on the field for more than 2 turns. 
    - if by some miracle it does, her passive does no damage, so no charges are added. 
    - her red does really good damage and is cheap so she can fire on Collosus (since he mitigates match damage) and rip him or Wanda with no problem once the repeater is gone.
    - if by some miracle the repeater survived, Jane’s red only hits once so you’re not adding up the charges like Apoc’s. 

    But still…. This character is crazy. I think the team I’ll use her with is Okoye/Collosus or Colossus/ProfX or maybe with BRB/Okoye. Cuz she doesn’t leave ANYTHING on the field. She blows up everything. Your traps. Your repeaters. Your fortified CDs. She doesn’t care. If it’s on the field, she’s gonna blow it up. 
  • HoundofShadow
    HoundofShadow Posts: 8,004 Chairperson of the Boards
    edited July 2022
    This is how broken Polaris and 5* JF can be together. Throw in BRB and you've players asking 5* JF to be nerfed.

    https://streamable.com/enp5ik

    KK/5* JF/Polaris should be pretty sick if you can get those strike tiles out quickly.
  • Bad
    Bad Posts: 3,146 Chairperson of the Boards
    Jhor is a monster at 1/1/1.
    And she creates 1 charged at the start of battle and start of turn.
    That means at player's turn 2 with storm and BB there will be 7 charged tiles.
    Cascademania! There couldn't be a character using special tiles who could do something with her, except those who benefit from destroying it.
  • HoundofShadow
    HoundofShadow Posts: 8,004 Chairperson of the Boards
    edited July 2022
    If AI is smarter, they will rotate your Col. to the front and fire Polaris' blue to stun him instead. Unfortunately, the dumbness of AI makes it even harder to judge most character from a defensive point of view. Generally, they will fire powers with the highest ap cost.

    In Chess/Go, the AI is smart enough to beat T1 player of the world now. If the dev is interested, they could train their AI to recognise moves of common team setup and mimic them to provide a real challenge for the world of MPQ. 


  • Bad
    Bad Posts: 3,146 Chairperson of the Boards
    This is a game where each and every player thinks they are the smarter player who ever played it.
    If AI started beating them, the complainers would fill 10 pages on the first hours devs released the update.
    Bombing reviews and quitting menaces here and there, perhaps even death threats.
  • HoundofShadow
    HoundofShadow Posts: 8,004 Chairperson of the Boards
    I think the main problem with MPQ is the intelligence of AI. If AI is smarter, players will start taking non-meta characters more seriously. As for now, the AI is handicapped in the sense that:

    1) it doesn't rotate player's characters
    2) it matches its own tiles almost immediately after it fires
    3) fires power in a fixed order
    4) it doesn't spam powers consistently

    I believe most players go into matches against non-meta teams with a mindset of 100% winrate, unless luck messes that up.

    Heroic events are a pseudo-challenging events, whereas smarter AI is a real challenge. 

    Anyway, I've tried Polaris/5* Carol, Carbage/Eddie Brock, Carbage/BRB, BRB/Iceman, BRB/Sersi and they work well the way I expected. 

    Still, she will be BRB/Polaris top choice in shield training. I think Kitty/BRB/Polaris days are numbered in shield training come August/September 
  • Bad
    Bad Posts: 3,146 Chairperson of the Boards
    I'd enjoy an AI denying colors, or saving powers, or firing them optimally. But that would mean:
    - a lot of resources for to programming that
    - possibly a lot of players would hate that change
    - possibly a lot of bugs and a lot of time for to fix them, as BCS said the mechanics of the game are old and hard to reprogramming.
    For all that work it would be better and easier to enable pvp on real time.
  • Yoik
    Yoik Posts: 251 Mover and Shaker
    New thor and gladiator thor are a good match. especially if gladiator thor is at 50%. The board shake up every time is crazy, add a stun from daredevil and it will be my new fave sim team, toons are literally melting in 2 goes, and thats using the loaner in the current pvp. im definitely trying to get her with my 300 tokens i hope to have by that point, i cant imagine what its like fully covered and boosted
  • Vhailorx
    Vhailorx Posts: 6,085 Chairperson of the Boards
    658_2 said:
    Ok, no pickup for ancient reference  Janey 5. How about JFT? Quick and easy
    I watched those movies recently.  They did not hold up as well as I wanted them to.

  • ThaRoadWarrior
    ThaRoadWarrior Posts: 9,564 Chairperson of the Boards
    edited July 2022
    It’s hard to be sure at 1/1/1, but early testing with Danver5 and Valkyrie in her PVP lead me to believe we may finally have a use for the strike-destroyed-by-a-non-match yellow engine.

    *edit* switched to Polaris/Danver5, and I really do think we may have something on this team. Kinda fun.
  • Vhailorx
    Vhailorx Posts: 6,085 Chairperson of the Boards
    Early pvp play suggests that her boardshake will be very variable.   Kind of like halfthor with slightly less ap gen, but no need to worry about health.
    And her yellow seems better than I had anticipated, so her damage output may have survived the red nerf better than I expected as well. 
  • Venomous
    Venomous Posts: 236 Tile Toppler
    Someone said it before but I like Thoress. No idea why but it’s a nice name. 

    Maybe name her something off the fact she likes Charged tiles or something? 

    Could also just call her Fosthor. Foster + Thor.
  • Vhailorx
    Vhailorx Posts: 6,085 Chairperson of the Boards
    So far fosthor is my favorite. A good old fashioned portmanteau is just what we need here.
  • TheEyeDoctorsWife
    TheEyeDoctorsWife Posts: 832 Critical Contributor
    As previously noted , she seems destined to be meta . Plays well with others too. As for naming , I’m thinking the female Thor of ThorF, or woman Thor WThor
  • HoundofShadow
    HoundofShadow Posts: 8,004 Chairperson of the Boards
    I think we might have different mmr because I see Kitty/Polaris/BRB or Colossus/Apocalypse/SW most of the time once I reach high enough points in shield sim. When I said Kitty/Polaris/BRB is coming to an end, I'm referring to their frequency of appearance in shield sim, not the difficulty of beating them. Currently, their appearances are as frequent as Colossus/SW/Apocalypse. Come August/September, we'll see more 5*JF/Polaris/BRB and 5* KK/Polaris/BRB, and Kitty/BRB/Polaris appearances will be reduced.

    As for Polaris/5* Carol, there's a probability of winfinite by firing 5* JF red and spamming 5* JF yellow. A champed 5 JF should be able to make this happen and 5" Carol sending Polaris airborne should stop her from flooding the board with special tiles.
  • Bad
    Bad Posts: 3,146 Chairperson of the Boards
    Jhor will shake the meta upside down. She is a monster. Playing her with SW is funny, because you feel good if there is a turn where her cd survives.
    Poor godboosted ronan doesn't have any chance too, and his cd is fortified. 
    With Jhor you can never know if AI will get AP, will get match critical, etc...
    Even playing colossus I needed the 10 healthpacks today.
  • Tiger_Wong
    Tiger_Wong Posts: 1,098 Chairperson of the Boards
    Count me as a fan of the FosThor nickname. 

    She’s crazy. I got her down now and she’s so weird yet fun. She’s not like SC. You can put him with nearly anybody. She’s not like Gargantos. He’s becomes meta with a specific teammate. She’s not like Wanda. Wanda is a defensive specialist who speeds you up and powers you up. But FosThor has a lot of their elements. You can’t just put FosThor on any team. There’s a strategy to her craziness. 

    I just reached 50+ wins in her PVP. She’s so fun. Been using Knull/5*Carol lately. Gonna try her with Sersi/5*Carol next. 
  • Vhailorx
    Vhailorx Posts: 6,085 Chairperson of the Boards
    Tiger_Wong said:
    Count me as a fan of the FosThor nickname.

    She’s crazy. I got her down now and she’s so weird yet fun. She’s not like SC. You can put him with nearly anybody. She’s not like Gargantos. He’s becomes meta with a specific teammate. She’s not like Wanda. Wanda is a defensive specialist who speeds you up and powers you up. But FosThor has a lot of their elements. You can’t just put FosThor on any team. There’s a strategy to her craziness. 

    I just reached 50+ wins in her PVP. She’s so fun. Been using Knull/5*Carol lately. Gonna try her with Sersi/5*Carol next. 

    I think using her with someone like sersei, 5witch, or domino to alter the composition of the board and really leverage her board shake makes sense. 

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