Doctor Doom (Infamous Iron Man) 4*

It's not an alternative win condition though (waves might be buggy?), since you have to down the opponents anyway. It's just that so doom's 5hp bots don't make you take extra turns for no reason.

@ArchusMonk said:

@entrailbucket said:

@Jinx said:
Thought the match was supposed to end when there was only one opponent left and two doom it’s, kind of like when Kang sends everyone away, but that isn’t happening.

Kang's passive actually says "you win the game if...". I don't see anything like that in Doom's kit.

RED Self Destruct – Each turn, lose 1 health and convert 1 Green tile to Black. If all allies are Downed or Doombots, this team loses.

I guess I just can't read!

The only way this seems different to normal winning is that it stops revivers. Otherwise you still have to kill the other team?

@WhiteBomber said:
I am darn sure however the match will end if it's your doombots plus standard enemy doombots. I focused the 2 actual chars and left an enemy doombot standing and won without having to damage it.

I’m not sure if this is a bug or not, but it did it for me as well.

@dianetics said:
I don't get it. He looks like a niche character to me.
The one thing he does well works, but the rest is boring.

The revive meta was already handled with the Chasm nerf, so why is this exciting now?
iHulk isn't even around anymore, and Chasm has runaway too.

Is there something besides trucking the revive meta I'm not seeing?

I mean...it's neat to have a character that makes minions that help you?

Is it "exciting"? Not necessarily but what do you expect at this point with 325 other characters doing stuff already? I don't think anyone's falling over themselves with him.

I think most vets can handle the revivers with various other counters, but maybe in 4 land it would be helpful to have someone that blocks a fairly low cover iHulk/Moondragon team.

Worth remembering that newer players don't have all the old tools and can be very far away from them, either from covers or iso or both.

It's at least fun.

@DAZ0273 said:
I agree with diantics - this seems to be a counter for a meta already countered. That said it was pretty nice not to see the iHulk I fought revive so there is that.

It's pretty weird that we got this guy now. I don't think he'd have killed Chasm (maybe if folks raced him to 5*, but probably not), but how long were we begging for a guy that passively turned off resurrection?

I don't think he's completely useless -- the attack tiles power and buffing is good, and his black power will probably be good cheap damage. But the Chasm nerf does kill most of his potential utility.

@JoeHandle said:

@dianetics said:
I don't get it. He looks like a niche character to me.
The one thing he does well works, but the rest is boring.

The revive meta was already handled with the Chasm nerf, so why is this exciting now?
iHulk isn't even around anymore, and Chasm has runaway too.

Is there something besides trucking the revive meta I'm not seeing?

"Niche" character is hardly an insult, it's to be expected. How many "general purpose" characters MPQ characters are there?

I can think of one!

runs away immediately

@dianetics said:

@entrailbucket said:
Yep. She's awesome. Goose is killer, and part of some excellent teams. Hunter has an amazing match damage boost for super cheap, and her yellow is cheap direct damage. Aunt May wins fights turn 0. I think Victor is better than he seemed -- haven't used him a ton yet. Phylla Vell hits very hard too.

The narrative that all the new 5* are bad is just wrong. Peggy was the last real miss, and even she isn't awful.

I really like X23 and Phyl, they both can put out great damage. Hunter can be pretty awesome or a complete dud. She has the best true heal in the game with Dark Heal.
I have not really found a use for Victor, so I am indifferent. Next time he is boosted I'll force myself to use just him.
Old Peg is just bad.

So as it is going now I'm just not hoarding anymore, and I'm throwing all my CP into classics.

I mean they’re fine. X-23 specifically I think is cool but they’re pretty much just damage sticks that you have to jump through a few hoops to get said damage. No different than Apoc (fire yellow first) or or Shang (make red/purp matches). Except the latter does way more damage. So they’re not better than the tools we already have and they’re not providing a unique niche. Goose was the only character I got really excited about and even considered 550ing because she’s unique enough but I held tight. While I rarely see her in the wild, I do see her and she is super easy to dispose of. Others I don’t really see at all. I’ve seen way more 3* May than most of the 5*s that have dropped the last year.

I like Doom for the same reason I don’t like most of the new 5s. Damage stick is boring to me, especially when it does it less efficiently. Even with all the “tools” I’d struggle with an ascended moondragon / iHulk personally. And I fully expect to see more of those if people choose MD as their one max ascended character of the year to focus on. Doom at least deals with that. He also has a special tile spamming and true healing as part of his kit, and while those aren’t unique, do provide utility as well. There is also Court Death Shenanigans.

@LavaManLee said:

@liminal_lad said:
Are the infiltrators bugged? It seems like bots on the other team are draining my teams AP.

I noticed that also. I'm using 5Aunt in the PVP and I was all set to fire her red on my next turn when my Red AP went from 6 to 5 during the AI's turn and I couldn't fire it on my turn. Maybe it was something else, but I thought it was odd.

@S0kun

Can you please tell us if this is a glitch?

@dianetics said:

As for SIM, SIM is like the least important part of the game (maybe even less than lightning rounds). There is no benefit to farm it, and the rewards dog****. I want SIM to be more important because I like the mode, but currently there is no reason to do it.

Before ascension this was true, now sim is a great 1 star cover farm if you bought any of the ascended 1 star offers. There are quite a few people in sim that I have been going back and forth with all season, and I assume most of them are also farming 1 star covers and it's not that they really, really care about sim for some other reason.

Even if you didn't buy any of the offers, it's probably the best way to build up your 1 stars for ascension.

@KGB said:

@dianetics said:

@Daredevil217 said:
I like Doom for the same reason I don’t like most of the new 5s. Damage stick is boring to me, especially when it does it less efficiently. Even with all the “tools” I’d struggle with an ascended moondragon / iHulk personally. And I fully expect to see more of those if people choose MD as their one max ascended character of the year to focus on. Doom at least deals with that. He also has a special tile spamming and true healing as part of his kit, and while those aren’t unique, do provide utility as well. There is also Court Death Shenanigans.

I mostly agree with you here, but honestly I think I'd rather just Electro Evo any time I see iHulk. Grow him to the moon and save the health packs. I guess you could Electro 4Doom them and get through it quicker, but the point remains iHulk really has not been consistent in PvP for like 3 years and we have tools to take care of him. Switch and Electro.

Chasm was nerfed so he is far less problematic now. If this character arrived 1 year ago my opinion would likely be far different.

I get it, he is good, but I'm not excited for him like I am for Shaw. I don't think Doom will ever be an option for me in PvE and that is the majority of the game I play.

Whether or not he's good, his Welcome to Shield event where we had to use Strange on the 5 star node was a total troll because Strange as a Technologist has to eat 8K damage every time he fires Black. To me, he's another character to avoid if you use Technologists because team self damage is an awful mechanic. I ended up just boosting +4 Purple, using Deadpool with a +5 more starting Purple AP support and Whaling the node both days.

KGB

How much HP does your Dr Strange have? When he got buffed they made it pretty respectable -- it was definitely awful before.