Ascended Winners and Losers

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  • ThaRoadWarrior
    ThaRoadWarrior Posts: 9,564 Chairperson of the Boards

    After I finish Domino I’m considering parking my fav on Shaw, I think he is pretty obviously going to be a dominant 5 and I’m curious how long it’ll take to go from freshly rostered to max champ these days.

  • WhiteBomber
    WhiteBomber Posts: 749 Critical Contributor

    @entrailbucket said:

    @WhiteBomber said:
    Anyone who lived through the 3* years should know the pain that is "The Hood", I wanted Doop to be one of my first ascensions, but I find myself prioritizing offense. However, I do also find myself with a little ascenders remorse having chose Karnak as my first, and I almost never use him... On the obvious Deathlocke now.

    Right there with you! I was playing in the early days, and Hood still haunts my nightmares from the time.

    I've got some bad news though. In 2024, the Hood passive is terrible. It was crazy strong back then because we had to cast expensive stuff to win fights. Now we've got 5* match damage, tons of mass AP generation, passive damage, and cheap heavy hitters.

    AP steal/drain can still be useful (see Chasm) but it needs to be part of a package of other defensive or annoying stuff.

    Oh, you know I was planning on running him WITH Chasm on a purely annoying defensive team. I don't care if it takes me 20 mins to win that fight, I will leave that Doopsm team for someone else to deal with.

  • rainkingucd
    rainkingucd Posts: 1,532 Chairperson of the Boards

    @ThaRoadWarrior said:
    After I finish Domino I’m considering parking my fav on Shaw, I think he is pretty obviously going to be a dominant 5 and I’m curious how long it’ll take to go from freshly rostered to max champ these days.

    I just got Moondragon to 360 and finished Phyla-Vell. I've got no interest in favouriting Oscorp Spidey even for the Golden Oldie covers.

    So I switched then to Shaw for the same reasons (and because I saw him in X-Men 97)

  • Mr_F
    Mr_F Posts: 769 Critical Contributor

    @ThaRoadWarrior said:
    After I finish Domino I’m considering parking my fav on Shaw, I think he is pretty obviously going to be a dominant 5 and I’m curious how long it’ll take to go from freshly rostered to max champ these days.

    I'm in process of ascending Wasp and Ant-Man. Max-Max I want. It took me about 2 months to get Wasp from 320 to 370 and now 277 and Ant-Man from 344 to 280. Total of... 119 covers. Depends on luck and pulls and such.

  • ThaRoadWarrior
    ThaRoadWarrior Posts: 9,564 Chairperson of the Boards

    I have both of those ascended, I feel like the new swarm mechanics they added are just kind of in the way, but that is largely due to me having such a longer history of using them the old way I guess I don't really have a good sense of what to do with them now. I'm not max-maxing any of my 4s though, i just do champ+1 and ascend.

  • Mr_F
    Mr_F Posts: 769 Critical Contributor
    edited April 2024

    Color overlapping in all three of them. Part of the problem. But it's Wasp. You know me. Even my 5 yo niece niece knows which Marvel character put on the BD's laurel*.

    Anyway, I got 119 covers in 2 months. That's what ya want (101+13) to know. Aproximation, sure, but still better than nothing.

    *a common kids present for adults in Poland. TLDR: A kids drawing/piece of art on paper with wishes written on it. Google "laurka". I got few and sometimes cardboard made Wasp and Ant-Man.

  • ThaRoadWarrior
    ThaRoadWarrior Posts: 9,564 Chairperson of the Boards

    yeah for sure; I haven't been tracking exactly my progress on sharding of 4* dupes, i've been marching down mostly completed ones just to free up the slots since ascension went live, but I'm now so iso limited that they are stacking up saved covers and 5* characters are sitting unchamped with as many as 19 covers in the bank. So I want to catch back up on that a bit, and I figure focusing fire on a long-haul 4* might be interesting for science as well as a means to that end. I'll probably start a new experiment thread for it.

  • entrailbucket
    entrailbucket Posts: 7,001 Chairperson of the Boards

    M'baku is completely insane (he's boosted this week).

    That will be all.

  • WhiteBomber
    WhiteBomber Posts: 749 Critical Contributor

    You know who's not insane? 4* Mbaku.

  • entrailbucket
    entrailbucket Posts: 7,001 Chairperson of the Boards

    @WhiteBomber said:
    You know who's not insane? 4* Mbaku.

    It's crazy that ascension flips all these guys on their heads. M'baku is a 4* with a decent match damage boost who really needs to tank to be useful, but never will if you use him with 5*.

    But at 5* he's Better Colossus, basically guaranteed to tank his colors, with match and power damage resistance plus massive healing.

    It's like he was designed to be an awesome 5*, then downgraded somewhere along the line.

  • WhiteBomber
    WhiteBomber Posts: 749 Critical Contributor

    Sounds like 98% of the 4* tier
    "this could be a cool character... if the 4* stats weren't so far off from the 5* stats that they are useless".

    A few more years though and I will have that Mbaku that isn't useless *rubs hands together

  • entrailbucket
    entrailbucket Posts: 7,001 Chairperson of the Boards

    @entrailbucket said:

    @captainheath said:

    @entrailbucket said:

    @captainheath said:

    @entrailbucket said:
    Someone was asking about Doop somewhere...hoo boy.

    I'm running him all passive, with Chavez/Colossus/PX, and he's just a straight-up better Colossus. With AC's extra match damage boost adding on, plus PX's extra damage reduction, he's a completely unstoppable tank.

    Have you tried Ascended Doop/5ProfX/Ascended Rogue. I guessing that would work well. I'm almost done with Ascending Coulson, then I'm planning on Doop next, but I need 40 covers.

    I haven't, but that sounds like a pretty good idea!

    I'm thinking there is a team where Doop denies AP with his passives and increases power cost for enemies. If it stacks with Prof X's increasing power costs and Rogue continually tanks and denies even more AP, that would be a great sim team.

    Oh, hmm. I guess you could spec him that way. I think that might actually be TOO much defense, though!

    I liked using him with AC's passive and Colossus passive stacking for match damage, with PX and Colossus passive stacking on defense. He took almost no damage.

    I'm dumb. The Doop passive I was talking about is 4* Juggernaut, not Colossus.

    They're close, sorta! Right???

  • Domitronas
    Domitronas Posts: 179 Tile Toppler

    Ascended Ikaris kinda slaps not going to lie

  • sambrookjm
    sambrookjm Posts: 2,253 Chairperson of the Boards

    I just pulled 50 LL tokens, which was enough shards to get my dupe Polaris up to 370. So now she's my second ascended 4-star, after Cyclops. This now means I'll need to find a new 4-star team for the DDQ, but I think I can manage. :)

    Up next for favoriting? These are the characters I've got dupes at LVL 300+ for
    America Chavez - 318
    Captain Marvel - 329
    Gamora - 305
    Rocket & Groot - 303
    X-Force Wolverine - 319
    X23 - 302

    Or should I just ride the Polaris train all the way to 550?

  • slidecage
    slidecage Posts: 3,610 Chairperson of the Boards
    edited April 2024

    I cant remember how you accend
    is there a big differencee

    meaning
    bullseye 266 one 240 do i need to wait till 266

    i got like 20 i think 3 stars i can move up but dont have the 2nd one max do i lose that many rewards by now maxing out the 2nd 3rd

    got my first 4 star up to 5 america

  • Jinx
    Jinx Posts: 295 Mover and Shaker

    I have XForce paired with Shang Chi as my top pick two. Grocket with ascended Juggernaut (4>5) and OR as my other top team. I’d recommend those two first.

  • Scofie
    Scofie GLOBAL_MODERATORS Posts: 1,637 Chairperson of the Boards

    @slidecage said:
    I cant remember how you accend
    is there a big differencee

    meaning
    bullseye 266 one 240 do i need to wait till 266

    i got like 20 i think 3 stars i can move up but dont have the 2nd one max do i lose that many rewards by now maxing out the 2nd 3rd

    The last 20 rewards give you:
    15500 Iso-8
    350 HP
    23 CP
    2 LT
    1 MT
    400 4* Feeder Shards
    200 secondary feeder shards (or another 3500 Iso ifthere is no secondary feeder).

    I guess it depends how desperate you are to play with 3Bullseye4. Given you can shard him, I'd wait. I ascended a few 3 > 4 before they were Max/Max but wish I'd waited.

  • slidecage
    slidecage Posts: 3,610 Chairperson of the Boards

    idea i have
    1 level 266 others not

    have almost all 3s like this many are 266 and other is just 13 covered.. would it be worth the covers wasting to move that 2nd 3 to 266 or join one 266 and one 166 to have it accended to 4

  • LavaManLee
    LavaManLee Posts: 1,704 Chairperson of the Boards

    @slidecage said:
    idea i have
    1 level 266 others not

    have almost all 3s like this many are 266 and other is just 13 covered.. would it be worth the covers wasting to move that 2nd 3 to 266 or join one 266 and one 166 to have it accended to 4

    It depends, in my opinion, how much you use them or not. If you aren't using them, I would try to get them up to 266 to Ascend. Because it really doesn't matter so may as well wait. If you do use them, it could be worth it to just Ascend and level up from there.

    Personally, I am not levelling up until I have two at max. But that is just me.

  • Zarqa
    Zarqa Posts: 483 Mover and Shaker
    edited April 2024

    General consensus seems to be that at the base level (so the first ascension tier) max/max is always the best approach unless you will use the ascended character right away. Since that really only applies for some 4s like Polaris, Juggs, etc in my opinion, you therefore should max/max everyone the first time except those few 4s you will immediately use as 5s

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