Ascended Winners and Losers

I tested Danver5 right when that change was made, it doesn’t end your match unless the enemy is fielding a Kang. Has anyone done Carnage vs Carbage yet? Curious how they compare.

Just ascended Legion and he's not very inspiring, all the power numbers pretty much doubled going from 370 to 450. No changes apart from damage/heal numbers. He's not stealing more tiles, he's not draining more AP, nothing. I'm unimpressed. And to think that I kept him as my only favorite since the start of ascension...

@Domitronas said:
Just ascended Legion and he's not very inspiring, all the power numbers pretty much doubled going from 370 to 450. No changes apart from damage/heal numbers. He's not stealing more tiles, he's not draining more AP, nothing. I'm unimpressed. And to think that I kept him as my only favorite since the start of ascension...

Something like 95% of ascended characters do the exact same thing, just with different numbers. Probably more like 98%.

It's no offense to you but people should just expect that, it seems.

@KGB said:

@entrailbucket said:
Prowler is really, really strong. I'm not sure if he always was, or if he got a buff somewhere, or what. If he can steal something, the fight will end pretty quickly. He also makes stuff to steal now!

He was rebalanced in September but since he's a 4 star hardly anyone here cared so it's already been forgotten - LOL
https://forums.d3go.com/discussion/89080/upcoming-rebalance-prowler-aaron-davis-9-14-23

KGB

Huh, neat!

This is why the ascension system is so cool. I'd never have noticed this buff at all without it. I wonder what other surprises are hiding out there!

@bluewolf said:

@Domitronas said:
Just ascended Legion and he's not very inspiring, all the power numbers pretty much doubled going from 370 to 450. No changes apart from damage/heal numbers. He's not stealing more tiles, he's not draining more AP, nothing. I'm unimpressed. And to think that I kept him as my only favorite since the start of ascension...

Something like 95% of ascended characters do the exact same thing, just with different numbers. Probably more like 98%.

It's no offense to you but people should just expect that, it seems.

But you see you never know, what sucks to me the most is that we don't have any "patch notes" or anything, we literally have no idea what, if anything, was changed for a character with ascension.

@Tiger_Wong said:

@Domitronas said:
Just ascended Legion and he's not very inspiring, all the power numbers pretty much doubled going from 370 to 450. No changes apart from damage/heal numbers. He's not stealing more tiles, he's not draining more AP, nothing. I'm unimpressed. And to think that I kept him as my only favorite since the start of ascension...

His green changed from making only 1 1-turn repeater to making 2 1-turn repeaters.

That along with his damage output being really good and he’s actually a pretty good character ascend as a 3rd if you have a good duo and need a 3rd character to fill an offensive or tile protection or tile removal or AP denying hole in your team.

It always created 2 at rank 5. https://forums.d3go.com/discussion/82700/legion-david-haller?utm_source=community-search&utm_medium=organic-search&utm_term=legion

@Bowgentle said:

@Domitronas said:

@bluewolf said:

@Domitronas said:
Just ascended Legion and he's not very inspiring, all the power numbers pretty much doubled going from 370 to 450. No changes apart from damage/heal numbers. He's not stealing more tiles, he's not draining more AP, nothing. I'm unimpressed. And to think that I kept him as my only favorite since the start of ascension...

Something like 95% of ascended characters do the exact same thing, just with different numbers. Probably more like 98%.

It's no offense to you but people should just expect that, it seems.

But you see you never know, what sucks to me the most is that we don't have any "patch notes" or anything, we literally have no idea what, if anything, was changed for a character with ascension.

Yeah I miss their threads where they told us how they changed characters, and WHY.
Those were really helpful.

He's asking about changes that happen when a character ascends from 4* to 5*, etc.

I can say the VAST majority only get changes to damage numbers, match damage, and health. Some characters do get other stuff (AP costs, additional effects, etc). It would be nice to have a list of those somewhere.

@DAZ0273 said:
I suppose one reason might be they said the ascended characters were going to be under scrutiny for potential balancing tweaks so they are all potentially still "on trial" and subject to further amendments so no point locking in on a philosophy behind whst has been done just yet. It probably means we won't really get any explanations.

I feel like that excuse is more about "we reserve the right to fix broken OP stuff" than rebalances in general, though. I don't expect them to go back and fix weak characters. At least not quickly.