Grand Experiment 2: Treading Water in the SCL 10 Post-Shardpocalypse

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  • entrailbucket
    entrailbucket Posts: 7,001 Chairperson of the Boards

    @ThaRoadWarrior said:
    After this PVE, my Wong is at 3/3/4 with 124 shards. Abomination is at 295. I'll be very interested to see how much further I can get in the next week or so on that. I hit 370 with Spider-Gwen and Flaptain this morning also.

    370s seem to be stacking up pretty quick for you. I still think 4* are the key to the whole thing. I had 3 max Gwenpools, so Jeff was champed the day he was released. I know that seems sort of insane, but like...it's kind of not? These guys just snowball, and you're seeing it.

    I finished off two more 5* since my last post here, BSS and Black Panther. Hoping for buffs to them soon! Next up is Beta Ray Bill at lvl536. That's going to be awhile, but with the recent feeders, I've been able to keep a 550-target bonused, rather than having to bonus the next guy out of Latest.

  • Punter1
    Punter1 Posts: 732 Critical Contributor

    For those of you with dupe 5s, are you still ISO long?

    I have been in the ISO desert for a while now after previously getting up to ~7MM ISO banked. Got the regular 2* & 3* farm (2 cycling copies, 1 max + 1 other) and now got 66 max 4*s doing the same thing, so keeping the max and working on champing the dupe.

    With all the dupes I am constantly short ISO. So can't imagine how duping 5*s can be handled with the current ISO economy.

  • Bowgentle
    Bowgentle Posts: 7,926 Chairperson of the Boards

    It's doable. At some point ISO just stops being an issue.
    The biggest hurdle are 4* dupes.
    I don't have dupe 5s but they're not a common occurrence - and if you're at the point where you're commonly champing dupe 5s you're so far beyond ISO that it really doesn't matter.

  • entrailbucket
    entrailbucket Posts: 7,001 Chairperson of the Boards

    @Punter1 said:
    For those of you with dupe 5s, are you still ISO long?

    I have been in the ISO desert for a while now after previously getting up to ~7MM ISO banked. Got the regular 2* & 3* farm (2 cycling copies, 1 max + 1 other) and now got 66 max 4*s doing the same thing, so keeping the max and working on champing the dupe.

    With all the dupes I am constantly short ISO. So can't imagine how duping 5*s can be handled with the current ISO economy.

    I don't think very many people around here are duping 5*, so I can answer I guess...I have a few unchamped dupes of the 550s I have (the rule is, a guy will sit on lvl549 forever, and then you'll immediately pull two covers back to back).

    I'm still, uh, pretty iso-positive. As of today I have over 58 million iso, with no levels available to buy.

  • Phumade
    Phumade Posts: 2,601 Chairperson of the Boards

    @entrailbucket said:

    @Punter1 said:
    For those of you with dupe 5s, are you still ISO long?

    I have been in the ISO desert for a while now after previously getting up to ~7MM ISO banked. Got the regular 2* & 3* farm (2 cycling copies, 1 max + 1 other) and now got 66 max 4*s doing the same thing, so keeping the max and working on champing the dupe.

    With all the dupes I am constantly short ISO. So can't imagine how duping 5*s can be handled with the current ISO economy.

    I don't think very many people around here are duping 5*, so I can answer I guess...I have a few unchamped dupes of the 550s I have (the rule is, a guy will sit on lvl549 forever, and then you'll immediately pull two covers back to back).

    I'm still, uh, pretty iso-positive. As of today I have over 58 million iso, with no levels available to buy.

    GEEZ I only have 31M. I need to cut back on skipping people in pvp

  • entrailbucket
    entrailbucket Posts: 7,001 Chairperson of the Boards

    @Phumade said:

    @entrailbucket said:

    @Punter1 said:
    For those of you with dupe 5s, are you still ISO long?

    I have been in the ISO desert for a while now after previously getting up to ~7MM ISO banked. Got the regular 2* & 3* farm (2 cycling copies, 1 max + 1 other) and now got 66 max 4*s doing the same thing, so keeping the max and working on champing the dupe.

    With all the dupes I am constantly short ISO. So can't imagine how duping 5*s can be handled with the current ISO economy.

    I don't think very many people around here are duping 5*, so I can answer I guess...I have a few unchamped dupes of the 550s I have (the rule is, a guy will sit on lvl549 forever, and then you'll immediately pull two covers back to back).

    I'm still, uh, pretty iso-positive. As of today I have over 58 million iso, with no levels available to buy.

    GEEZ I only have 31M. I need to cut back on skipping people in pvp

    Not skipping anybody ever makes PvP WAY more fun, and saves iso! Win-win!

  • ThaRoadWarrior
    ThaRoadWarrior Posts: 9,564 Chairperson of the Boards

    Kang is champed from progression shards. No movement on Wong.

  • ThaRoadWarrior
    ThaRoadWarrior Posts: 9,564 Chairperson of the Boards

    Landed a 2* krakoa from a standard support token; that feels like even longer odds than progressing on Wong.

  • DAZ0273
    DAZ0273 Posts: 11,478 Chairperson of the Boards

    Didn't even realise Krakoa was in tokens. Guess I can go have a go from my stash.

  • Bowgentle
    Bowgentle Posts: 7,926 Chairperson of the Boards

    I pulled a 4* Krakoa from the many many tokens from the Kamar-taj vault.

  • Punter1
    Punter1 Posts: 732 Critical Contributor

    @entrailbucket said:

    @Punter1 said:
    For those of you with dupe 5s, are you still ISO long?

    I have been in the ISO desert for a while now after previously getting up to ~7MM ISO banked. Got the regular 2* & 3* farm (2 cycling copies, 1 max + 1 other) and now got 66 max 4*s doing the same thing, so keeping the max and working on champing the dupe.

    With all the dupes I am constantly short ISO. So can't imagine how duping 5*s can be handled with the current ISO economy.

    I don't think very many people around here are duping 5*, so I can answer I guess...I have a few unchamped dupes of the 550s I have (the rule is, a guy will sit on lvl549 forever, and then you'll immediately pull two covers back to back).

    I'm still, uh, pretty iso-positive. As of today I have over 58 million iso, with no levels available to buy.

    Fair - dupe 5s are pretty rare. But those of you up there will have gone through the multiple dupe 4s land. For the most part veterans do seem to keep most max 4s - so no ISO from selling them.

    I am a T50ish finisher in SC10 PVE & PVP in a top 25 alliance. I don't miss much daily ISO, the obvious being a few thousand from personal placement. That would add up somewhat over time, but I don't think fills the dupe ISO hole AND allows someone to bank 58MM!

    I went from thinking I was post ISO to being in the desert, so just amazed others managed to survive through the dupe process on 4s, never mind 5s.

  • Bowgentle
    Bowgentle Posts: 7,926 Chairperson of the Boards

    Lightning Rounds.

  • Punter1
    Punter1 Posts: 732 Critical Contributor

    @Bowgentle said:
    Lightning Rounds.

    I play some if i can get in and clear the feeders. Didn't for the longest time when I did have ISO surplus.

  • entrailbucket
    entrailbucket Posts: 7,001 Chairperson of the Boards

    @Punter1 said:

    @entrailbucket said:

    @Punter1 said:
    For those of you with dupe 5s, are you still ISO long?

    I have been in the ISO desert for a while now after previously getting up to ~7MM ISO banked. Got the regular 2* & 3* farm (2 cycling copies, 1 max + 1 other) and now got 66 max 4*s doing the same thing, so keeping the max and working on champing the dupe.

    With all the dupes I am constantly short ISO. So can't imagine how duping 5*s can be handled with the current ISO economy.

    I don't think very many people around here are duping 5*, so I can answer I guess...I have a few unchamped dupes of the 550s I have (the rule is, a guy will sit on lvl549 forever, and then you'll immediately pull two covers back to back).

    I'm still, uh, pretty iso-positive. As of today I have over 58 million iso, with no levels available to buy.

    Fair - dupe 5s are pretty rare. But those of you up there will have gone through the multiple dupe 4s land. For the most part veterans do seem to keep most max 4s - so no ISO from selling them.

    I am a T50ish finisher in SC10 PVE & PVP in a top 25 alliance. I don't miss much daily ISO, the obvious being a few thousand from personal placement. That would add up somewhat over time, but I don't think fills the dupe ISO hole AND allows someone to bank 58MM!

    I went from thinking I was post ISO to being in the desert, so just amazed others managed to survive through the dupe process on 4s, never mind 5s.

    Ahhhh I see. So, building the duplicate 4* farm was absolutely BRUTAL. It happened for me a really long time ago. I thought I'd never get it set up.

    I've been playing at a relatively high level for a very, very long time, and so I was playing when champions first became a thing. I don't really target specific characters, and I don't hoard anything, so what happened was that all my 4* started hitting 370 at the same time. I had a huge cushion of iso and used it all up really fast. It took about 6 months of grinding iso in lightning rounds to get my 4* dupe farm fully set up. They did give out less rewards generally around that time, though.

    It's absolutely worth doing. 4* are just a crazy reward factory, and especially with the way they're doing retro feeders now...I wouldn't want to miss out on them.

  • ThaRoadWarrior
    ThaRoadWarrior Posts: 9,564 Chairperson of the Boards
    edited April 2023

    I have dupes for 21 of my 28 max champ 4*s. They really do all seem to max out in clumps. It also seems like you end up with a dupe in pretty short order after maxing one, anecdotally.

  • entrailbucket
    entrailbucket Posts: 7,001 Chairperson of the Boards

    @ThaRoadWarrior said:
    I have dupes for 21 of my 28 max champ 4*s. They really do all seem to max out in clumps. It also seems like you end up with a dupe in pretty short order after maxing one, anecdotally.

    You always pull covers 370 and 371, like, 5 minutes apart. Also I've recently discovered that the same applies to 550 and 551.

  • ThaRoadWarrior
    ThaRoadWarrior Posts: 9,564 Chairperson of the Boards

    Looks like Jeffrey is in, Wong dropped out at 3/3/4 with 488 shards. Abomination is at level 298.

    I had a 335 nebula, so I’m starting with a 1/1/1 High Evolutionary.

  • DAZ0273
    DAZ0273 Posts: 11,478 Chairperson of the Boards

    Slight tangent but I still haven't been able to champ 3* Jeff but have pulled 3 High Ev 3* covers already today. Jeff seems strangely hard to get for me for some reason. As for 5* Jeff I am waiting for Kang to leave.

  • ThaRoadWarrior
    ThaRoadWarrior Posts: 9,564 Chairperson of the Boards
    edited May 2023

    I'm still pretty HP-light right now having been throwing in for vault 10-packs of late, so I haven't rostered either evolutionary yet. I ended up at a 172 for 3* Jeffrey, but ever since Arcade, I also find that landing the 3* isn't a slam dunk always. I'm going to sit on LTs until Kang drops as well, but otherwise commit to the bit and keep throwing my CP into the black hole of Classic. I'm curious how long it'll take to finish up Wong. If I can do it before Kang leaves, then maybe this is not the end of the world.

  • ThaRoadWarrior
    ThaRoadWarrior Posts: 9,564 Chairperson of the Boards
    edited May 2023

    I pulled a 3* high evolutionary this morning; haven't rostered it but I did roster my 1/1/1 5*. I also closed out that shard cover of Wong, so he is 3/4/4. I'm 40 abomination covers from finished. I don't think it's worth switching focus to Clea along the way since Wong is only a secondary feeder and she's not that far along. I also have a dupe for Flaptain on the vine; should be ok to get all these guys rostered before they expire, but i haven't been HP pinched like this for a good long time. 1 LT in the bank.

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